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SUBMAN1 06-12-08 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak
Typhoon because it's big. Big=Good:up:

Yep! Us Americans like big things!

-S

Platapus 06-12-08 04:57 PM

No love for the hotel :(

First submarine to launch a ballistic missile while submerged.

If fading memory serves me, I believe that a Hotel I (perhaps the K-16???) modified with the D4 in 1959 was the first submarine to launch a ballistic missile while submerged. It was not until 1960 that the Hotel II modifications started as a production.

A George Washington submarine launched submerged in December 1960

Keep me honest here, Is I rememberin this right? :88)

Been a long time since I was a sub analyst.

TLAM Strike 06-14-08 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus
No love for the hotel :(

First submarine to launch a ballistic missile while submerged.

If fading memory serves me, I believe that a Hotel I (perhaps the K-16???) modified with the D4 in 1959 was the first submarine to launch a ballistic missile while submerged. It was not until 1960 that the Hotel II modifications started as a production.

A George Washington submarine launched submerged in December 1960

Keep me honest here, Is I rememberin this right? :88)

Been a long time since I was a sub analyst.

The first Russian sub to launch while submerged was a Whiskey modified with a single (later a two) missile tubes.

Platapus 06-14-08 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
The first Russian sub to launch while submerged was a Whiskey modified with a single (later a two) missile tubes.

What year did this happen?

Weren't these cruise missiles?

" All guided missile variants of the Whiskey class had to surface in order to fire their missiles."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_class_submarine

Kapitan 06-14-08 03:38 PM

first SSB one fitted with ballistic missiles was the zulu IV class it launched the first SLBM believe in 1948 maybe wrong on the date.

Platapus 06-14-08 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan
first SSB one fitted with ballistic missiles was the zulu IV class it launched the first SLBM believe in 1948 maybe wrong on the date.

Was that able to launch submerged?

wow 1948 cooleo

Kapitan 06-14-08 04:45 PM

no had to surface the first SSBN to fire submerged missiles i do believe was the hotel version II 1964 trials began on a zulu IV in 1963.

First real SSBN was the yankee able to fire thier missiles from 50 meters submerged and had 16 SS-N-8 missiles (unless it was K-219 then it only had 15)

Platapus 06-14-08 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan
no had to surface the first SSBN to fire submerged missiles i do believe was the hotel version II 1964 trials began on a zulu IV in 1963.

I agree that the Hotel II was the class that had the D4 in production, but I am still pretty sure (as sure as my fading memory permits) that a modified Hotel I with the D4 was the first submarine to launch a ballistic missile while submerged. Of course this was not operational.

I believe the first operational subs capable of launching a ballistic missile while submerged were the George Washington class.

Anyway, I wanna see some love on the poll for the Hotel class :rock:

Kapitan 06-14-08 04:58 PM

first true SSBN was george washington it was so good it was why the soviets dropped the hotel class and instead went forward to produce a design of similar proportion later known as the yankee (navaga).

Theres still one yankee (akson) active with the russian navy however she no longer carries SLBMs

TLAM Strike 06-16-08 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus
Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
The first Russian sub to launch while submerged was a Whiskey modified with a single (later a two) missile tubes.

What year did this happen?

Weren't these cruise missiles?

" All guided missile variants of the Whiskey class had to surface in order to fire their missiles."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_class_submarine

1956.

Nope SLBMs not SLCMs. The SS-N-5 Serb to be specific. They also used the same boat for another SLBM test.

The Sub was the S-229 which was renamed the B-613. The weapons were not armed and it was not part of any production line of submarines, she was just a test platform outfitted for the specific job of testing new missiles in the Black Sea.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/r-21.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=cP4...sult#PPA110,M1

(Wow did I finaly best Kapitian with something didn't know? :p )

Kapitan 06-16-08 03:29 PM

In fact you did ! early early cold war i know not alot about nuclear boats and more modern stuff ie 1960's to date is my main area of intrest from the HENs to borey.


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