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keltos01 04-28-08 01:55 PM

newbie
 
Well sorry about that.. I'm new at texturing...
I used wings3d to create the uv map and save it. that's maybe why. here it is ingame :

[IMG]file:///C:/DOKUME%7E1/Besitzer/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-9.jpg[/IMG]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6...senbi10gt3.jpg
[URL=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=508&i=jyunsenbi10gt3.jpg][IMG]http://img508.imageshack.us/img50

DavyJonesFootlocker 04-28-08 02:02 PM

I see what you mean.:hmm:

keltos01 04-28-08 02:56 PM

mesh
 
what program do you use to make the maps ? and how? thanks, k

DavyJonesFootlocker 04-28-08 03:21 PM

I use Photoshop and Illustrator for the textures. However, I mainly use Lightwave instead of 3DS Max. UV Mapping is not my forte so to speak. I take a screenshot of the front, side and top views in LW. Crop them in Illustrator and in Photoshop apply the textures. Then I incorporate the textures into LW and apply them to mesh. That's the simple explanation on how I do it. Like I said before it's easier in LW than Max. I suppose you can apply the textures via the Materials Editor.

keltos01 04-28-08 04:24 PM

textures
 
it was way easier in wings3d than max according to me... more automated :D

keltos01 04-29-08 06:40 AM

hull problem
 
I don't understand how wings3d makes the shapes out of the 3ds file, it looks as though it completely warped the hull (look at the deck plancking f.i.),

wooden deck :
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3...odcopiecv0.jpg

metal welded deck
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7...llcopierz1.jpg

All the textures used for this sub will be made available in a .rar file, if not tonight, tomorrow.

keltos01 04-29-08 07:02 AM

metal deck
 
I finally opted for a metal deck, less prone to distortions, untill I have time to do better, me or someone lese for that matter!

[url=http://imageshack.us]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3...alcopieqg0.jpg

[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7...lcopie2jo4.jpg[/

keltos01 04-29-08 08:55 AM

mapping
 
ok I'll do it, but I first wanna see how it shows up in game, the stuff I did today with wings3d.

then I'll need to separate the rudder, planes and propellers, place them at the right place, change the deck gun, hopefully get a jap aa gun, and move on to make it stand alone ;)
then I'll do another...

keltos01 05-06-08 02:47 AM

NEW !
 
I found another tutorial about apllying textures to an object, and this time the object doesn't look like a cube either, I'm trying it out as we speak, but the feature that I directly liked is to apply a checkerboard on the object before you try out the texture, this way you see if it's well mapped or not. I myself had to add a modifier...

http://www.waylon-art.com/uvw_tutorial/uvwtut_01.html


http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4...rscopiehn5.jpg

relationship between the map and the model :
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3...ngcopienz9.jpg

still not in game though...

keltos01 05-06-08 01:25 PM

grrrrrr
 
I don't get it :damn:
the map is done, the textures are based on the map, and still it doesn't work in game..
HELP !!!!!!!

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9...exturestx8.jpg
[url=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=142&i=wrongtexturestx8.jpg][IMG]http://img142.imageshack.us/img14

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8...yunsenbbd5.jpg

JU_88 05-06-08 02:39 PM

Good work, I can only give you one tip about mapping, try to minimised wasted space on the texture. make the UV Cluster peices as big as you possibly can, and try to fit them like a jig-saw the smaller the clusters are the more pixelated a less detailed they will be in game.

DeepIron 05-06-08 02:43 PM

I'm working mostly in Wings3D as well and found this tut: http://www.davidbrinnen.com/tut_wings_3.html to be helpful.

I'm working out the UV/SH connection myself and I'll post something when I get it fully worked out.

keltos01 05-06-08 03:25 PM

textures work
 
New hull done !
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...d=1#post857751

Snaptrap 05-06-08 11:47 PM

I'm using Photoshop CS3 to for the DDS files, but I'm wondering what setting to use when opening them.

keltos01 05-07-08 02:51 AM

I wouldn't know as this hull only uses tga files, I tried to replace them with dds ones in the model of what you can find in the sen toku .dat (with the imbedded image) but it didn't work -> hull all black

then I erased the new nodes, pasted in (import .dat) the node for the tga files from an original 9xd2 . dat, and to my surprise ! the textures worked in game !!!!
So now I know how textures are made, as well as Occlusion Maps (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136354 Rodan54 :up: )
and apart from the weird green lines, it looks ok to me. I still have to fix the torpedo tube doors though, and a certain sinking propency... oh ! and the fact that on all the movies/pictures I've seen so far (black n white) the subs appear dark, but hey, in sh4 even if you have a dark sub or a camouflaged one, the game doesn't take it into account ! :doh:

The goal was to have a sub looking like the one in my signature, I removed the crane and the high radio mast (those ships were used as command HQ for some kind of wolfpack) as they would have been stowed away while underwater.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5...newhulljk1.jpg


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