Global Warming = Green Taxes

Q.E.D :know:


I do not believe politicians as they feather there own pockets any way they can. Bring them to book not this green lie. :stare:

Ecology can be summed up in four simple rules:

• Everything is connected to everything else.
• It all has to go somewhere.
• There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
• You can only s*** in your nest so many times, then you are nesting in your s***.

Of course six billion people are going to have an effect. Whether or not they are the only factor is immaterial. We are influencing our planet. That’s not Al Gore; that’s just scientific observation and common sense.

There have indeed been natural climate changes before. Yep. And some species lived through them.

Anything we can do to prevent or at least mitigate this process is most desirable. That doesn’t mean we cannot eat meat from methane-producing cows, drive automobiles or water our lawns. Yet. It does mean that we need to find better ways of meeting our needs, not just continue down the same path.

PS - Steed, your comments on politicians are just a bit too understated. Pity we cannot use the lot for mulch in an organic ginseng farm somewhere.

:rotfl: Snappy comeback of the week :rotfl:

Move here. The grass is already growing, buds have been on the trees for a couple of weeks and I'm in a T-shirt.
Our average used to be snowfall and last frost around the 18th.

In a T-shirt, so you mean that the temperature is slightly above the freezing point of water, thats when we sto pwearing warmer clothers here :88)

Anwer is no.

There are at present 190 countries in the world.

The US of A produces 20 % of co 2 emissions.

China is predicted to catch the US by the end of the decade.

If we dont find a way to curb ourselves, how can we expect the rest of the world to go along with it? That goes double for The Chinese government. Afterall we are not exactly best buds.

Knee jerk reaction becuase the US sits atop the numbers people get defensive thinking not what to do about the situation but rather we are being blamed for something so lets focus on that instead of the problem.

GET OFF THE BLAME GAME and BOO HOO GAME and get back to the problem.

I wonder if the human species is not a virus attacking an otherwise healthy galactic cell? :hmm:

You could be right. :cool:

Actually Monica, before 1991 about the USSR I'd agree with you.
After the collapse in terms of CO2 out put Russias plumeted due to the collapse and even though industry is recovereing I don't think they are anywhere near the levels they were.

20% ?!?!
Bleimey!
What are you guys doing over there?!

*Edit* ahh! sataistics! Perhaps misleading.
Perhaps a better way would be to measure Co2 per head, as opposed to per nation. How does that compare.

Only if you chose to define "healthy" in that way. Thats very much in the human-subjective view.

I asked that question from my parents when i was in the second grade, only instead of virus used the word parasite.

Which would make ebola and the pest Gaia's antibodies...

If you did it per capita the USA would fall to tenth and China would be looking pretty good at 91st.

1. Qatar Pop. .9 mil total co2 .2%
2. Kuawait Pop. 3.3 mil
3. UAE Pop. 4.5 mil
4. Luxembourg Pop. .5 mil
5. Trinidad Pop. 1.3 mil
6. Brunei Pop. .4 mil
7. Baharain Pop. 1.0 mil
8. N. Antlls. Pop. .2 mil
9. Aruba. Pop. .1 mil
10. USA Pop. 303.8 mil total co2 20.0%


91. China. Pop. 1,321.8 mil total co2 18.4%

IE: China 2nd in output is 91st when done per capita!

I can see China spin that up big time.

I don't see such thinking as very productive.

It could be used as a basis for productive thought.
For instance human beings seem to act sort of like a parasite, the kind of parasite that is aparently killing its host, while the rest of nature could be seen more as symbiotes. Now if one would look upon thins like that it could be reasoned that humanity needs to change to become a symbiote which would be productive.
Now the hard part from there is to find ways of doing that without reverting back to the stone age, which some nutcases might be happy do do.