Go for the oil. What have we got to lose? We're not going to switch over to cleaner energy sources, so we might as well defeat the gas problems of the moment and worry about the environmental problems later. I'm not being sarcastic either. Fuel is almost $4.00 is some places, and with the economy slowly sinking into a depression, I want to save SOME of my money. Might as well start with these outrageous fuel prices.

4usd a gallon and you are complaining?

Thats were I left the mag.....:roll:

Everything is way closer in europe plus you have public transportaion to support it.

Only $3.72 a gallon over here ... of course I ony go to town once a week now.

Fair point, but over here we allso have wages that are a lot lower.

Numerically, maybe...but with the way the dollar is right now, that may not actually be true.

I paid $4.05/gal for diesel on my last trip out. A typical fillup is 120-140 gallons and we make 4 fuel stops...

Diesel requires less processing than regular gasoline but costs more? Now, tell me someone isn't getting screwed...

No, not numericaly, by value, even with the dollar the way it is.

Thise kind of stuf, is good news for me

Why?? I'm looking towards that day, when we can say to the leader of the middle east, go **** you self, we do not need your oil anymore.

HOWEVER it's very important that we put money into science, so that we one day can get rid of this need for oil/gasolin.

Markus

I wonder what sucking out all that oil has on the underlying stability of the ground.It is really a shame actually...the high gas prices force people to make change.My son laughs at me when I tell him I want to invent the Fred Flinstone car that runs on human power. :) I am serious though.

http://bedrock.deadsquid.com/img/gro...a_baby_car.jpg

Great, now at the subsim meeting, everybody is going to be "searching" in Neal's couches for treasure:hmm: .

The maddening thing to me is the greenies will find some way to block this.:shifty: It used to be T-rex habitat, so we need to protect it. It seems like whatever energy source we come up with, it is bad.:shifty:

Petrochemicals= pollution
nuclear= radioactive waste
coal= acid rain
hydroeletricity= kills some sort of dumb fish
wind= kills birds and ruins "greenies" pristine view
ocean wave energy= kills fish, ruins beach property

Their answer...biofuel, hemp gas:roll:, blah blah blah , Yeah, lets us the least efficiant means of fuel to power our economy. I've just sick of this whole subject.

climbing of soapbox now:roll:

Depends of the country, Estonia is still going up from ground zero. Your inflation is going faster than your wages at the moment but im sure they will also get up.
But this would be a good time to visit US with strong Euro. Not shopping but mainly to visit museums and landmarks, im a history geek.:oops:

I thought it took more oil to make diesel than it does gasoline ... something around six times more ... :hmm: