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AVGWarhawk 03-20-08 09:10 AM

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This should be interesting because the other states looking to ban might be able to if this goes through. Two things concern me, militia and the fact that DC is not a state per se. I do not see a militia starting anywhere in todays world. The Constitution specifically reads, 'states'. DC does not have statehood unless I missed something along the way. I watched some of this on the new yesterday. One justice was just fine with not banning guns per the Constitution. There was one that favored the ban. Time will tell.

DC is a district of a state - Maryland I believe. It is not independant. ANyway, for all intents and purposes, you can see how ticked these Justices are at the lawyers who are trying to swim againt the Constitution. Seems WA DC will have its rights restored soon.

-S
Subman, a few years ago there was attempts to have Maryland absorb DC but I believe it failed. Just as well as I live in MD and do not want their troubles on my doorstep. We get enough of that from Baltimore City. You know, the 'city that reads'....instructions on how to file off the serial #'s on the 9mm's:lol: At any rate, they are still not a state and have no representation. Militia? Come on.

Yahoshua 03-20-08 09:13 AM

It has a total handgun ban and a technical firearms ban.

Any rifles or shotgun is your home MUST be disassembled or have a gun-lock on the firearm and keep ammunition stored in a seperate and secure area (ie. not even teh same safe).

So if somebody comes crashing through your door or window you have to deal with a perp who is already armed and ready to use their weapon, you have to run upstairs, find the key to the gunlock, unlock the gun (and assemble it if necessary), run over to your ammunition locker, unlock the locker and get out your ammunition so you can defend yourself.

It's a one-sided situation for self-defense (you lose!) and a back-door total gun ban (which only the law-abiding obey).

Onkel Neal 03-20-08 06:20 PM

Gunshots bring abrupt end to frantic 911 call

Give me a .40 Ruger over the 911 operator any day.

So it goes....

antikristuseke 03-20-08 06:37 PM

If someone breaks into my apartment they are quite likely to meet the business end of my throwing axe.
The kind of ridiculous firearms laws shown in the video in the OP should all be thrown out. Now then, I do support gun controll to a certain extent, but this is bull****.

FIREWALL 03-20-08 06:44 PM

Let the top judges rule to disarm all Law abiding citizens and then shoot all the same judges.

Then when were all legally disarmed, a Dictator and his minimuns can have open season on all of us.

Yep. Let's just all toss our legally owned guns away and Trust the PROVEN Powers to keep us safe and sound.

AVGWarhawk 03-20-08 07:03 PM

I really do not see this law passing. It will set a presidence over other states. The lawless will still have the guns. The law abiding needs equal force. I do not own a gun so it is of no consequence to me really. I do however own two dogs. If the perp wants to see the business end of the Wired Haired Pointed Griffon, he is more then welcome and she is more then ready to oblige.

sonar732 03-20-08 09:24 PM

Break-In Suspect Dies

Notice how the police state the occupant "did everything right".

Yahoshua 03-20-08 09:40 PM

@ Neal: A sad story. If someone else had been there with something to defend themselves with or a neighbor who noticed the break-in and came to their aid, even a baseball bat would've been better than an operator on the line!!

But at least the victims in Sonars' article had a happy ending (that they lived through the ordeal). Even more surprising is that they practically had the blessings of the PD (that actually did surprise me).

@AVG: Um, which law are you talking about? Are you talking about the D.C. ban that might be upheld by SCOTUS?

sonar732 03-21-08 05:08 AM

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But at least the victims in Sonars' article had a happy ending (that they lived through the ordeal). Even more surprising is that they practically had the blessings of the PD (that actually did surprise me).

Why would it surprise you that a police department said what they did? This man waited until the people did break thru his door before shooting, thus abiding in the law.

Personally, the would-be robbers are lucky they didn't try my house...a 12 gauge or .410...depends on which I grabbed from the safe...would be meeting them.:/\\chop:gulp::lurk:

Yahoshua 03-21-08 09:19 AM

I'm used to seeing sherriffs or officers saying that the 'victim could've hurt themselves or others more than they could've done any good by defending themselves and they should call 911 and just wait for us cops to show up and run away from the robber if they're confronted blahblahblah' that sort of thing.

bradclark1 03-21-08 09:51 AM

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I'm used to seeing sherriffs or officers saying that the 'victim could've hurt themselves or others more than they could've done any good by defending themselves and they should call 911 and just wait for us cops to show up and run away from the robber if they're confronted blahblahblah' that sort of thing.

Thats becoming more and more common. The police get called but they won't do anything until they get overwhelming numbers because it might be dangerous. What good does that do the victims? Not a bit!

SUBMAN1 03-21-08 12:06 PM

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Probably going to be stamped a racist here but 56% of the population in DC is black. I think that has more to do with the murder rate then anything. New Orleans was the murder capital of the country/world(?) which had a 67% black population.
So more guns in DC and it's impact is questionable but then more good guys could have guns so the death rate might go up but it would be self defence. Could probably flip a coin and call. But is DC a firearms ban or hand gun ban?

The funny thing is, yesterday Obama in his speech said 'The typical White Woman'. Imagine if McCain or Billary said 'The typical Black Woman' in his or hers? :hmm:

My question is - where are the hysterics over that statement?

-S

SUBMAN1 03-21-08 12:16 PM

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Break-In Suspect Dies

Notice how the police state the occupant "did everything right".

Notice how the article also says that "police say that it is never good when guns are involved". Somehow I am suspicious that the police actually said it in this case, and that the writer just said this on their own.

-S


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