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The copy protection issue has been with us since I can remember. It basically is as useless now as it was in the BBS days. Where there is a will to crack it, it will be cracked. The only ones who are inconvenienced by copy protection are the people who legitimately purchase the software. I won't start with the whole Sony rant because, frankly, my balance is too bad to be climbing up on a soap box. Taking an "oh you can remove it later" attitude is not the sensible approach. Voicing concern over the invasion of our computers by the likes of Sony's (oops, I said that four letter word) viruses and rootkits is the only way to effect any changes. It may be a bit of "tilting at windmills" but so many "revolutionary" ideas started as just that. If we say we are POed about this crap and nothing happens, then so be it, but if we never complain about the crap to begin with, then we deserve it. <climbs down from soap box to the tune of the Who's "We're Not Gonna Take It"> |
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So that part is fine. Edit: oops I thought you were talking about the add-on. The original CD does have copy protection and a normal copy will not work at all. There are ways to make a copy, which is allowed under law, but I understand the tools themselves to produce these allowed copies cannot be specifically discussed here. As a website owner you can't afford the consequences of someone stealing software based on instructions they received on your website. We don't encourage or condone piracy here. Piracy is why we've got our panties in a wad as it is.:rotfl: |
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Ok, just to verify something... I completely stripped all SH related files from my system, cleaned the registry, etc. and re-installed Sh4 1.3 from the DVD. There are no SecuROM files or processes installed or running on my PC... Installed the 1.4 patch. No SecuROM... Installed the 1.5 downloadable add-on. NOW I've got SecuROM.:down: So, if SecuROM should have been installed at 1.3 and was not (at least in my case), then there is something fishy about either SecuROM or my OS... either and/or both would not be beyond suspicion... [EDIT] A quick disassembly of the original 1.3 sh4.exe file shows a .securom code section. Hmm, wonder why it didn't execute before? |
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These versions have SecuRom: v1.0 v1.1 v1.2 v1.5 These do not: v1.3 v1.4 Now, that said, I entirely agree with you. Why have SR reinstated in the v1.5 patch? While I take acception to it's inclusion, I can understand the reasons why, but I have taken it upon myself to remove it, and why not?:D |
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Now in addition to our original ammunition, DeepIron reveals that UBI sold DVDs without protection. That really strengthens our position. What changed? The nice sales weasel with the scary stories, that's what! I'm getting off the thread. The SecuROM situation is important to protest once in awhile, but there is a point of propriety. We're there. |
I wanna take Ubi to court!:hmm::yep::rotfl:
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Oh and FYI, anyone who did install from v1.0 and then patch up will still have SecuRom dormant on their system. Why have we not heard from them? Answer, because it doesn't cause them any problems. Round to me or (at the very least) a Draw.:D Damn, my feet hurt. I should have worn comfortable shoes for this dance. |
I only know of one CP that actually works. Theatre of War's. You get a license number when you buy it or if you dont have an internet, you have to call them and get it. AFAIK, still remains un-cracked and I'd like to see other games use this method too. Bin the SF & SR crap, does more to hurt than help.
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So, I got a v1.3 DVD with an sh4 executable that contains SecuROM code that shouldn't be there... and doesn't work anyway... hmmm.... |
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V1.0 was DVD as was v1.3 (also downloadable), the rest (excluding v1.5, which is both) were downloadable. It makes sense that v1.3 would be re-issued on DVD without SecuRom as it was the first patch that removed the requirement for the DVD. Quote:
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The secuROM does absolutely nothing other than let you download the game when you purchase it. I have it on my computer. It has sat dormant since last year. It became active when I downloaded the add-on. It went back to sleep when done. No ill affects on my computer. Would it have been nice to know secuROM was being loaded? Sure. It was not told to me and I will get over it. Let it go and play the game:up:
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wow it's gettn' hotter
while y'all hack it out how does this affect the novice like me who's about to insatll SH4 + u boat missions from afresh..... or am i missing the point, in that, there isnt one - just install, click 'yes' to everything, patch up to 1.5 and off i go ? |
SecruROM is out there to get the Developers their compensation for the thousands of man hours put into this game. Read below. How do you think the modders feel? Their hard work now on someone elses computer. It is being distributed and looks like for a fee. So really fellas , what is the big issue here? Other games have this as well.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...814#post802814 |
If you installed but didn't run SH 1.5, could someone with the DVD send you thei exe file, and you'd be golden?
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