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For me it's still too early to tell. Obama and Hillary have the potential to do more damage to turn a lot of people off. I don't think McCain can get the Republican party totally behind him. I think we'll know more in seven weeks.
None of the candidates are saying what I want to hear about Iraq and they are all ignoring Afghanistan and those two things are what will ultimately swing my vote..

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Washington Post - Your call to act on "actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets" appears identical to current administration policy. Yet the problem seems to be less a willingness to act than the availability of "actionable intelligence." Do you advocate increasing that presence in Pakistan, regardless of whether the Pakistani government agrees? What type of increased U.S. presence would you like to see in both Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Barack Obama - The problem goes beyond developing actionable intelligence. It is acting on it. The failure to focus on Afghanistan and the FATA [Federally Administered Tribal Areas in Pakistan] because our resources were diverted to Iraq has enabled al-Qaeda to develop a sanctuary for its core leadership, likely including Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.
The Bush administration has not acted aggressively enough to go after al-Qaeda's leadership. In 2002, their failure to use U.S. troops in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan allowed al-Qaeda's leadership to cross the border to Pakistan. The New York Times reported that in early 2005 an opportunity was missed to strike an al-Qaeda leadership meeting -- reportedly including Ayman al-Zawahiri. According to the Times, this decision, "frustrated some top intelligence officials and members of the military's secret Special Operations units, who say the United States missed a significant opportunity to try to capture senior members of Al Qaeda." Furthermore, the administration itself acknowledged that the strategy of working through Pakistani tribes to capture al-Qaeda leaders had failed.
As president, I would send at least two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan. I would focus more Special Operations resources along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, including intelligence-gathering assets. I would condition some military assistance to Pakistan on their action in the FATA. And I would be clear that if Pakistan cannot or will not take out al-Qaeda leadership when we have actionable intelligence about their whereabouts, we will act to protect the American people. There can be no safe haven for al-Qaeda terrorists who killed thousands of Americans and threaten our homeland today.

From here - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008030300128

I was surprised that Hillary won the last subsim poll and now she's in the what's left over poll ...

Hillary is already dropping hints that she's up for a Clinton/Obama run for the White House ...

That would complicate things a bit ...

Record numbers of young democrats have been turning up to vote in the democratic primary's.

I still go with Senator John McCain as the most likely person to use his authority to delegate the United States of America's giant military machine.

He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

I voted not for who I want to win, but who I think probably will, and that's Hilary.

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Originally Posted by geetrue

He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

Well he does come from a long, distinguished line of white haired admirals. :)

PD

The problem with McCain is that he's too hot-headed. Several of his friends have described him as a person who loses control when he gets angry. If he was in office, and henceforth had nuclear weapons at his disposal, then it would be very risky. He could very well punch the big red button, if you know what I mean...

I also have personal issues with McCain, particularly how he bashed Clinton's daughter, making the claim that she must have been the spawn of Janet Reno. You need to see the entire thing that he said. He's just another dirty politician who's not going to make much of a difference once he gets in office.

I also have a problem with his leadership tactics. A few years ago, he said he would continue President Bush's way of handling the country and Iraq...

Finally, the man is just too old and too sickly. He could die on us at any time, particularly when we need him the most, and that's something that would be extremely bad... although I have to admit that I wouldn't feel that bad about his passing and I'd probably skip any moments of silence broadcast on TV.

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Originally Posted by geetrue

He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

Oh my god. It's the best reason in the world why we should vote for him...

People, people, people! Come on! Get common sense! Why do you only care about looks and not about management tactics? I'd take a person who looks like ****, but still manages the country in a proper manner over a person who looks great, but handles the country the way Britney Spears handles her kids.

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Originally Posted by gee true

United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

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Originally Posted by gee true

United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

Actually, the United States has the second largest military in the world... underneath China's, that is, but you can't really compete with that... unless you use proper technology against a bunch of rice farmers that can handle a pitchfork better than they can a gun.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I voted not for who I want to win, but who I think probably will, and that's Hilary.

Same here :yep:

If Clinton gets the nomination I'll vote Clinton.
If Obama get the nomination I'll vote McCain.

The US can't take another ineffective 4 year Presidential term, and that, IMO, is exactly what Obama will deliver. He wants to change, change, change. Criminy, he hasn't even been elected to a second term by his own constituency yet...

While I understand that Clinton doesn't have all the answers, I consider her experience as a First Lady and as a Senator, more acceptable.

McCain is my last choice as the "evil of two lessers" and I always vote, even if it is just to "shut up" those that don't vote and then complain afterwards...

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

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Originally Posted by gee true

United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

Might be the second largest but it's still small and geared for quick in and out action. Thats why it's so high tech and expensive. Quality over quantity.

Edit- In fact the US Army's mission was changed in 2005 I see. http://www.army.mil/aps/05/ Not one I'm really thrilled with but I guess it's realistic. I wonder what it means for size and organization.

Go figure...good ol' Bill is supporting his wife on the thought of Barak being the VP running mate.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

right now i want mccain to win, because he is the only one with the balls to bomb iran :yep: (and august too...:lol: :up: )

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So Neal, who'd you vote for in the Texas primary?:cool: ;)

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

So Neal, who'd you vote for in the Texas primary?:cool: ;)

Ron Paul had to have someone vote for him ... :rotfl: