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Von Tonner 02-21-08 11:54 AM

I'm confused!!
 
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Scary. Why are people voting for him?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SZTo0iGc_Dw

-S

TWO SENATORS - PLAYING AROUND, OR BUSY?
Senator Clinton, who has served just one full term of 6 years and another year campaigning, managed to author and pass into law only 20 twenty pieces of legislation in all of her six years. Read them to see just how asinine, juvenile and meaningless so many of them are.
(These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov)
1 . Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name a courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name a post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name a post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness
preservation system.


Senator Obama, in his 8 years in the Senate, has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
In fact, in just his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These include **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill
Among his many bills are:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
6 veterans affairs"

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by August
We've had plenty of Presidents that went beyond such a small view of the job. Read John Adams "Thoughts on Government" for a start.

Oh I'm sure that is the case. No doubt in my mind. Quick question though - have you looked at the latest line up? 2 of them are hard left wingers. One is in the middle and probably best fits your description.

-S

Tchocky 02-21-08 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by August
We've had plenty of Presidents that went beyond such a small view of the job. Read John Adams "Thoughts on Government" for a start.

Oh I'm sure that is the case. No doubt in my mind. Quick question though - have you looked at the latest line up? 2 of them are hard left wingers. One is in the middle and probably best fits your description.

-S

Hard left wingers?

I'd say moderate centrists.

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner
TWO SENATORS - PLAYING AROUND, OR BUSY?
Senator Clinton, who has served just one full term of 6 years and another year campaigning, managed to author and pass into law only 20 twenty pieces of legislation in all of her six years. Read them to see just how asinine, juvenile and meaningless so many of them are.
(These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov)
1 . Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name a courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name a post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name a post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness
preservation system.


Senator Obama, in his 8 years in the Senate, has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
In fact, in just his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These include **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill
Among his many bills are:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
6 veterans affairs"

Uhhh... Where did you get your information? Wrong Obama I think - he hasn't been in the Senate that long yet as far as I know (I could be wrong) - He just got elected in 2004 and hasn't done anything!!!!

-S

Konovalov 02-21-08 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky
Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by August
We've had plenty of Presidents that went beyond such a small view of the job. Read John Adams "Thoughts on Government" for a start.

Oh I'm sure that is the case. No doubt in my mind. Quick question though - have you looked at the latest line up? 2 of them are hard left wingers. One is in the middle and probably best fits your description.

-S

Hard left wingers?

I'd say moderate centrists.

Haven't you cottoned on to the trend here that these hard left wingers are a pack of commie nutjobs who want to paint the good olde US of A red. :lol:

In all seriousness though I tend to agree with your characterization.

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 12:07 PM

I just looked it up - Obama was just elected to the Senate in 2004. That gives him 2 years on the job before he dropped everything for his presidential run.

Scratch that - 1 year since he wasn't sworn in till 2005.

-S

DeepIron 02-21-08 12:13 PM

Quote:

He's got charisma and thats all he has.
He's a first term Senator. He knows NOTHING! He has a BIG idealistic streak, wants to "change things", and has done NOTHING!

Charisma and Oprah are all he has. And sadly, in this disaffected, TV addicted, "pretty boy wins all" society of ours, it'll be all he needs...:nope:

Von Tonner 02-21-08 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner
TWO SENATORS - PLAYING AROUND, OR BUSY?
Senator Clinton, who has served just one full term of 6 years and another year campaigning, managed to author and pass into law only 20 twenty pieces of legislation in all of her six years. Read them to see just how asinine, juvenile and meaningless so many of them are.
(These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov)
1 . Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name a courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name a post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name a post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness
preservation system.


Senator Obama, in his 8 years in the Senate, has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
In fact, in just his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These include **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill
Among his many bills are:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
6 veterans affairs"

Uhhh... Where did you get your information? Wrong Obama I think - he hasn't been in the Senate that long yet as far as I know (I could be wrong) - He just got elected in 2004 and hasn't done anything!!!!

-S

Obama's Senate Years: Carefully crafting "the brand"

By Mike Dorning and Christi Parsons
A story we wrote for today's Chicago Tribune offers a portrait of Barack Obama at work in the Senate. It shows how he hewed closely to a strategic plan hammered out with advisers shortly after his arrival in Washington to nurture what they saw as his "brand:" an identity as a unifier and consensus-builder, an almost postpolitical leader.
The result is a record on issues that ranges from international weapons proliferation to hometown bridges and highways. He has accumulated some significant but not high-profile legislative achievements, while managing to avoid any severe political bruises and, ultimately, expanding his national following.
Obama's performance in the Senate reveals a politician cannily focused on long-term political goals. With a mix of ambition and caution, he temporarily set aside the high-minded rhetoric of a Democratic National Convention speech that launched him into the national spotlight in favor of a more realistic view of just what he could accomplish as a lowly freshman legislator.
He approached it all with the mindset of a person who had lived all over the country and the world as a child and young man, transferring from city to city and from school to school before landing permanently in Chicago around 1990.
An excerpt from the story follows:

Von Tonner 02-21-08 12:49 PM

I would hardly say he has done "nothing"
 
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996 from the state's 13th District spanning the south-side Chicago neighborhoods of Hyde Park, South Shore, and Englewood.[32] In 2000, he made an unsuccessful Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives seat held by four-term incumbent candidate Bobby Rush.[33] He was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998 and 2002, officially resigning in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate.[34] As a state legislator, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[35] He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[36] Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped.[36] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[37] He was criticized by rival pro-choice candidates in the Democratic primary and by his Republican pro-life opponent in the general election for a series of "present" or "no" votes on late-term abortion and parental notification issues.[38]

DeepIron 02-21-08 12:51 PM

Obama's Congressional Voting Record:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_cate...hp?can_id=9490

BTW, NV means "No Vote"... Form your own opinion. I especially found his voting on the "Defence" issue very interesting.

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner
Obama's Senate Years: Carefully crafting "the brand"

By Mike Dorning and Christi Parsons
A story we wrote for today's Chicago Tribune offers a portrait of Barack Obama at work in the Senate. It shows how he hewed closely to a strategic plan hammered out with advisers shortly after his arrival in Washington to nurture what they saw as his "brand:" an identity as a unifier and consensus-builder, an almost postpolitical leader.
The result is a record on issues that ranges from international weapons proliferation to hometown bridges and highways. He has accumulated some significant but not high-profile legislative achievements, while managing to avoid any severe political bruises and, ultimately, expanding his national following.
Obama's performance in the Senate reveals a politician cannily focused on long-term political goals. With a mix of ambition and caution, he temporarily set aside the high-minded rhetoric of a Democratic National Convention speech that launched him into the national spotlight in favor of a more realistic view of just what he could accomplish as a lowly freshman legislator.
He approached it all with the mindset of a person who had lived all over the country and the world as a child and young man, transferring from city to city and from school to school before landing permanently in Chicago around 1990.
An excerpt from the story follows:

That exactly proves the point of the video - he hasn't done anything (at least not noteworthy)! He co-sponsered a couple things, and that's it.

-S

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996 from the state's 13th District spanning the south-side Chicago neighborhoods of Hyde Park, South Shore, and Englewood.[32] In 2000, he made an unsuccessful Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives seat held by four-term incumbent candidate Bobby Rush.[33] He was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998 and 2002, officially resigning in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate.[34] As a state legislator, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[35] He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[36] Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped.[36] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[37] He was criticized by rival pro-choice candidates in the Democratic primary and by his Republican pro-life opponent in the general election for a series of "present" or "no" votes on late-term abortion and parental notification issues.[38]

Let me re-phrase that - nothing noteworthy on a 'National Level'. Helping some farmer out in Il doesn't count in my book.

-S

SUBMAN1 02-21-08 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
Obama's Congressional Voting Record:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_cate...hp?can_id=9490

BTW, NV means "No Vote"... Form your own opinion.

It means he is not doing his job. :down:

-S

Von Tonner 02-21-08 12:56 PM

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DeepIron 02-21-08 12:59 PM

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That exactly proves the point of the video - he hasn't done anything (at least not noteworthy)! He co-sponsered a couple things, and that's it.
Precisely. And this is the man who wants to bring CHANGE to the US? Sorry, I don't see it happening in Obama. :shifty:


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