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Peto 02-16-08 01:06 AM

I'd be most interested in a good old fashioned balanced budget before looking over-seas for empty piggy banks.

The more this election goes on, the more I think that anyone who would want to be POTUS now has got to be just a little crazy. You couldn't pay me enough to take on that kind of stress.

orwell 02-16-08 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sonar732
I, for one, hate those commercials about the starving kids in underdeveloped nations who need your money to buy them food, clothes, and clean drinking water.

What happened to the poverty in the good 'ol USA?

I wholeheartedly agree. And if we insist on helping others, yes, basic needs should be met. But, what if we gave them jobs, and stability? Capital would go a long way, especially if the population were given skills to be independant, and the chance to compete with their products globally.

baggygreen 02-16-08 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The WosMan
True, but I think it goes much further than that. Obama is very mysterious about his agenda. When he gives speeches they are very vague and he talks in circles and everyone thinks it's great. Even though this is parody, it pretty much sums up Obama: http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rus.../obamaspot.asx

The fact is in his short political career he is the most liberal senator in the US Congress. I think the guy has an agenda that goes beyond the normal pandering. Be prepared to learn this new anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpKRd2xQeq8

Sounds like our PM:D

Stealth Hunter 02-16-08 04:39 AM

Well... I don't know. None of us really know what's going to happen when the new president is elected. They might do what they say... they might not (as was Bush's case with "significantly lowered taxes" among other things). However, I'd take a chimp over the idiot running the country at the moment. At least chimps can actually think out ways to solve a problem... and they also know to chew their food ("Dammit Laura! We've got to stop feeding George so many pretzels!").

Whatever happens will happen. Nothing we can do. In the end, it comes down to the super delegates. Our votes don't mean much at all. It's who the super delegates want to be president, pure and simple.

Tchocky 02-16-08 04:50 AM

Anyone else sick & tired of all these Communists pretending to be real Americans?

JSLTIGER 02-16-08 11:33 AM

My question is simply why elite cares so much...he's not an American, he doesn't even live here on a permanent basis! Granted, in this case I happen to agree with him, but still...

STEED 02-16-08 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Anyone else sick & tired of all these Communists pretending to be real Americans?

I thought they were all locked up in the 1950's & 60's. :hmm:

Stealth Hunter 02-16-08 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED
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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Anyone else sick & tired of all these Communists pretending to be real Americans?

I thought they were all locked up in the 1950's & 60's. :hmm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg2CSNczMmY

:rotfl:

STEED 02-16-08 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

The good old days when reds were under the bed. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcffD...eature=related

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Obama bill: $845 billion
more for global poverty

Throwing money at the problem and hoping it will go away is not the answer for example back in the days if Tony Blair he tried it here by throwing money at it and still the problem remains.

Stealth Hunter 02-16-08 05:41 PM

I couldn't believe McCarthy. That man was like an Inquisitor and not like a politician (although much like a politician since he was only doing this for personal gain).

This country exists on the idea that all men are created equal and all inhabitants are entitled to inalienable rights, something that was totally smeared and nearly erased from American history during the late 1940's and early 1950's. We went from being sensible people to the equivalents of witch hunters in the 16th century. "A commie! Arrest him! Arrest him!"

Patriotism involves you blindly following the government without question. If history has taught us one thing, it's that we should always question what our leaders do. That's what led to the creation of the United States in the first place.

SteminDemon13 02-16-08 07:15 PM

Why not send...
 
Why not send some farm equipment over there? Why cant they teach them how to fend for themselves? We could also send Farming for Dummies, Building a working sewer system for dummies, survival for dummies, where to go if the land you are inhabiting is unable to support plant life for food for dummies, medicines for dummies. We are just shelling out all this money, with the same result for all these years. No one has thought about a tractor, farm equipment and soil drop.

XLjedi 02-20-08 12:32 AM

I really don't understand why we can't just get Socialism established here in the US first?

Is that being too selfish?

XLjedi 02-20-08 12:54 AM

Was there not a time in history when the victors of war required restitution be paid? ...how exactly did that concept get passed over? ...and replaced even with this idea that my children need to pay to rebuild these self-destructive nations.

If the gulf conflict occured back in the 50's Hillary & Obama would be arguing about whether or not to count the Iraqi delegates. (alright, so I jest... but still!)

StarFox 02-20-08 03:52 PM

Its better then spending the same ammount of mony in Iraq....at least it has a purpose

Kapitan_Phillips 02-20-08 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StarFox
Its better then spending the same ammount of mony in Iraq....at least it has a purpose

Does it? People all over the world have been pouring money into it for years, but there's been no real progress. Its gotten to the extent where they get money but dont really know what to do with it.

I agree with SteminDemon - send them stuff they can actually use to work their way out of the rut, rather than make them dependent on handouts. That might sound callous, but its just pissing money away otherwise.


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