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nikimcbee 02-13-08 09:38 AM

My question is, would it have mattered if Germany won the War? So many bad things resulted because of that war (nazis, commies) What would have been the down side of Germany winning?

Biggles 02-13-08 10:59 AM

I'm swedish. That means, in other words, I keep myself to the side that looks like it's winning.

FIREWALL 02-13-08 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggles
I'm swedish. That means, in other words, I keep myself to the side that looks like it's winning.



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Takeda Shingen 02-13-08 11:30 AM

Assuming that I have no nationality, and that I can see objectively, I would choose the Central Powers for the reason that the, frankly, illegal English blockade of the North Sea was one of the factors that really excaserbated the conflict. If I have to assume a nationality, then I would go with my country and the Entente.

Off topic, this topic and its presentation are textbook examples of how to have a controversial discussion without being offensive. Cudos to Stealth Hunter. I hope that everyone else is taking notes.

August 02-13-08 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
the, frankly, illegal English blockade of the North Sea

What was so illegal about it?

elite_hunter_sh3 02-13-08 12:41 PM

Central Powers simply because The Germans were always #1 when it came to war technology. :arrgh!:

Brag 02-13-08 02:13 PM

Both of my grandfathers were in the Russian Army. Soooo, the natural thing is the natural thing to do.

Takeda Shingen 02-13-08 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August
What was so illegal about it?

The British Admiralty, on 2 November 1914, declared the entire North Sea as a war zone. This was against international maritime law. The British also cried foul when Germany retorted by declaring all of the waters around Great Britian a war zone. Political pressure, most notably the potential entrance of the United States into the war, forced Germany to back down. This was less than fair, but that is war.

STEED 02-13-08 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
Central Powers simply because The Germans were always #1 when it came to war technology. :arrgh!:

Really. :hmm:

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Takeda Shingen 02-13-08 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED
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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
Central Powers simply because The Germans were always #1 when it came to war technology. :arrgh!:

Really. :hmm:

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Not to mention that Great Britian was the day's leader in battleship technology.

Stealth Hunter 02-13-08 05:11 PM

Fortunately, they --Britain- lacked submarines. Unfortunately, Germany didn't push their tactics to a new and more covert level.

The Germans were required to warn allied crewmen when they were going to torpedo a ship. Unfortunately, this cost many German sailors their lives because the British decided to add hidden guns to freighters and such.

August 02-13-08 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
The British Admiralty, on 2 November 1914, declared the entire North Sea as a war zone. This was against international maritime law. The British also cried foul when Germany retorted by declaring all of the waters around Great Britian a war zone. Political pressure, most notably the potential entrance of the United States into the war, forced Germany to back down. This was less than fair, but that is war.

Interesting, thanks.

kiwi_2005 02-13-08 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Fortunately, they --Britain- lacked submarines. Unfortunately, Germany didn't push their tactics to a new and more covert level.

The Germans were required to warn allied crewmen when they were going to torpedo a ship. Unfortunately, this cost many German sailors their lives because the British decided to add hidden guns to freighters and such.

Nor did any escorts have depth charges, so really it was easy pickings unless they tried a surface attack only to find the merchant turns out to be a Q ship.

U-9 commanded by Weddigen sunk 3 english battlecruisers - the Aboukir, Cressy, and Hogue within 1 hour.

Stealth Hunter 02-13-08 05:50 PM

To add to Takeda's statement, the British liner, Lusitania, was also carrying munitions at the time she was sunk off the coast of Ireland, which was a violation of the law. When Kptlt. Schweiger sank it, the Brits had the audacity to claim that he was decorated as a hero by the Kaiser, which he was NOT. Winsor McCay made the same outrageous claim for propaganda.

August 02-13-08 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
To add to Takeda's statement, the British liner, Lusitania, was also carrying munitions at the time she was sunk off the coast of Ireland, which was a violation of the law. When Kptlt. Schweiger sank it, the Brits had the audacity to claim that he was decorated as a hero by the Kaiser, which he was NOT. Winsor McCay made the same outrageous claim for propaganda.

Indeed. The German embassy actually printed handbills and took out newspaper ads before the Lusitania sailed warning passengers that she was a valid war target, sailing into a declared war zone and would be attacked if spotted.

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