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What the farce is that nobody has a standardized way of studying either extreme so you can basically make your own theory and swear it's really, really the real thing. Every Tom, Dick and Subman can point to cooling. Every Bob, Steve and bradclark1 can point to warming using whatever backs your theory. To me yes the suns activity can cause cooling but is our man made enviroment causing warming? I guess if it starts getting too cool we can increase pollution to control the weather. What we do doesn't effect the sun but what we do does effect earth. The difference between freezing and not is one degree.

We could start our own study right here on Subsim with such a diversified international community.

Report strange weather habits that stray from normal in your local area (not google).

Today is tuesday February 12, 2008

snow is melting wind is steady temperature expected to be in the 60's today.
Has been in the high fifties for the last three days ...

Very unusal for February here on the west coast ... simply beautiful weather.

Mid-February here in Germany. I currently live in the same climate zone as I did when being a schoolboy 25-35 years ago.

this weekend, weather was like the days before: I did my first skate tour - in nothing more than shorts and T-shirt. blue sky, sun was shining.

Last year I used to sit on my balcony at this time of the year, again in shorts and T-shirt. I enjoyed icecream - like I did yesterday. The years beforer also weather was considerably warmer than during my childhood.

Flowers and trees start to blossom. the cherry tree in front of my house started blossoming short after christmas, then hesitated, and went on, and hesiotated. Tress in general become green much earlier in the year now, and colopurful autumn comes later and lasts longer, than 30 years ago.

Increasingly, we have insects now that we did not have back then, they came in from the south.

when I was at school, we used to wear tight, thick coats, and do snowball battles in February. In Decembre, snow was not a given, but January and February and sometimes March were the coldest time of the year, with temperatures around or below zero very often, and snow that lasted for days and weeks. Sometimes there even was another snowy week in April.

Taking that contrast of over 25-35 years, I do not need a statistic to see that this is not the climate I lived in during my childhood anymore 8not that statistics objects that observation). It is objective, most direct experience. Like is the vanishing of glaciers, the increasing loss of ice at both poles (last confirmed by Nasa just in January this year), changing spreading patterns of botanic and animal life.

By calendar date, we have deepest winter over here. In fact it already is late spring, at noon-time even early summer. record temperate last week climbed to 25°C in my town area. It should be around and below zero. the number of severe floodings and stronger than usual thunderstorms in germany have increased by a factor of 5 over the past 20 years, says the german weather service - that makes it a trend. Last year was the warmest year in Germany since the recording of weather data started. Same record was reached in 3 of the 5 years before 2007 - we again talk of a trend, then.

Well, over here in the PNW, we are having an exceptionally cold and snowy year. Worst I can remember snow wise so far, and this is going back over 30 years since I moved here!

I also have friends in AZ, and one of them was out walkin ghis dog and found ice in a puddle! This is in a place that never sees ice and is known to be hot year round!

Crazy cold weather. Something wierd is going on - I believe this Ice Age stuff. Its bad this year.

-S

I was looking for a good excuse to go out and buy a Hummer :p

I almost bought an H2 once, but the blind spots on the right front corner of that thing are terrible. I almost ran over a cadillac on a test drive since this lady sped up to get in front of me and I couldn't even see her do it!

-S

It Was Cold Today! No To Global Warming!

EDIT - Thinking about the topic title - probably not.

Elect Hillary Clinton now! She will save us all. All of her hot air will keep the planet warm.:up:

Why would we need to elect her for her hot air? She will still continue to spill hot air regardless of what position she takes anyway!

In the end, we are all screwed. Hairy is an emotional wreck. SHe keeps shedding tears over this election. Seven to eight times now. This is exactly the person I want with their finger on the button - NOT! Maybe she thinks she can cry her way to the top.

Obama is an unproven suit. We could have a 9/11 happen and he would still be up their talking about change a month after it happened all the while waiting for his advisors to come to an idea.

McCain? I'm not even sure what party he represents, and he seems to be sitting around waiting for what other people say he should do instead of being a leader.

Who's left? Romney? Huckabee? Do they even have a chance?

What happened to Thompson? Thompson screwed up by not talking as effectively as he needed to.

Ugghhh!!!! The worst campaign in History that I can remember. Bush is a better choice than all of them!!!!!

-S

PS. Now you got me started. I'm going to stop now! :x

wait, you're not into the socialism thing??? i thought you were;) my bad:rotfl:

Don't even get me started! :D

-S

I'm no great fan of McCain but making up his own mind has never been a problem for him afaik.

As for not knowing what party he represents, I would think that's a darn good sign of a Centrist, which is, imo what this country needs...

Seeing how we've only been tracking climate for the past 100 years or so, I'd like to see a few more hundred years of collected data (not presumed from dirt and ice samples). Besides, volcanos dump a lot more crap into the atmosphere than even the oldest, dumpiest eastern bloc factory.

Well, volcanoes have always been venting, and the fact that they've been doing so for 4 billion years says that there's a cycle.
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