Oh brother. :roll: The young boy Elite is gonna pull out his guns and go to war. :zzz: Wake me up when it's all over.

i cant help but wonder if he'll break down in tears when there isnt the military unrest he seems to be hoping for.. no hundreds of thousands of russian troops marching across the border...

funnily enough, after the bloody nose they got in Chechnya im pretty sure the russians arent spoiling for another provincial fight any time soon..

British government sources admitted within 24 hours after the war that their precision ammunitions fell for dummies in over 90% of the cases. I repeatdely referred to that, some years ago. Serbian army forces withdraw from Kosovo almost undamaged, and maneuvering out in good order, and without any significant losses. So what to do in the future, then? For the most bomb civilian targets, infrastructure and dummy targets again?

the balkan is the border area where europe fades out, and others fade in. I am willing to leave it to the Slavic sphere of influence. They have interests there, Europe has not, and preventing a march of Islam again is in both side'S sinterest - only that Russia may be willing to privide the needs to ensure that, while Europe will never be willing or capable to do that. So let the Russians have their will there. It's in our interest, and they will even pay the show all by themselves. Can't be any better for europe.

Bombs and aircraft carriers. Toys that should be removed from the reach of American politicians. Then they may start using their brains on international relations. And any nutto knee jerker who wants to call me a liberal better know he is talking to a Marine.

i obviously will break down in tears, it means our government is corrupt and pathetic and a disgrace to serbs, kosovo is our religious and cultural homeland, during the 60s-80s tito encouraged albanian immigration into the area and didnt secure the borders.. 60% of the albanians living in kosovo are illegal immigrants, i dont know what country your from baggyGreen, but how would you feel if another race illegally walked in , then created a known terrorist organization thats supported and funded by al qaeda, who start massacring civilians, then your country sends in troops to destroy the terrorists.. and in the end gets bombed by a world superpower... how would you feel?? i can speak for a huge majority of serbs and say that yes, we will all break into tears knowing our cultural and religious homeland fell into the hands of islamic extremists who are corrupt, members of mafia and mass murderers....:cry:, we will go to war.. wether we like it or not, its our religious homeland.. we went into battle against all odds agaisnt the ottoman empire, 1 of our Princes died on the battlefield, ottomans had close to 40,000 troops, while we had around 15-20,000 , we had only a few hundred troops in full battle armor , while 90% of the ottomans were in full battle armor.. we dont care if we lose, we would rather die fighting for our homeland then watch it rot away at the hands of a bunch of mafia run islamic terrorists who have no respect for anyone but themselves... so in final.. yes i will cry... and so will my family.. and millions of other serbs around the world.. god help us.:cry:

Me too :zzz:

Kosovo 'independance' is a travesty of justice. When the albanian majority was given near complete autonomy in the early 80's, all they did was expel Serbs. Over 1 million if I read correctly.

If Kosovo becomes independant, the terrorists win and any countries sovereinty is open to debate with their immigrant populations. All they need to do is terrorise you into giving in to their demands. I know many Bulgarians see Nato as the aggressor here also, that in itself speaks volumes for the alliance.

But war? Russia will do nothing. Neither will anyone else... eventually Kosovo will join with Albania, despite the paper attempts by the europeans to make it appear they won't. Where next for the Albanians? Maybe Macedonia would make another juicy slice also.

Well...it appears elite was correct. Kosovo declared its independence this morning.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080217/...o_serbia_dc_27

So you guys are saying that the genocide committed by the Serbs in the '99 campaign give the population of Kosovo no right to independence? :nope: The acts that Serbia committed in Kosovo removes them of the moral right to govern the region, I'm happy for Kosovo and the population, lets hope that their state is a successful and peaceful one... the Balkans has seen enough bloodshed and turmoil in recent years, I hope this brings it to an end.

In my opinion Putin is just trying to cover his own supplies of energy. and couldn't give a damn about the population of Kosovo. Another factor is that I believe he is frightened that Chechnya might want to break away, stopping Russia from plundering the provinces natural resources. Its time that the world actually realized the rights of small provinces/states and gave them the rights that they deserve (where that is applicable of course, I'm not saying make Yorkshire and independent state because it wants to etc).

Unfortunately, neither side is blameless in the genocide of each other's countrymen.

Well, this will certainly give an answer to those people saying that accepting Nato intervention in Kosovo will lead to them breaking away...

SteelTomb just so you know there is a reverse genocide going on in Kosova. Serbian villages surrounded like outposts in a wild land. Serbs being kicked out of homes and what does the UN do? I don't know because you never hear anything about that as it might make Serbians look like not such the bad guys.

As for Chechnya, read your history and its claims for independence are groundless. I don't agree how Russia went about it but I have no time for the cause of Chechen independence either. And before you go on about poor Chechens, they weren't so nice to the ethnic Russians living there before either of the wars kicked off after the collapse of the USSR. But hey that news isn't reported over here as Russiasn would get sympathy.

Allowing this to happen is setting a precedent which will make the world a more unstable place. Christ every body and their dog want their own land...tell me where will this stop?

Great post :up:

I'm so glad elite isn't on the forum right now, I could really do without his tirades on the subject. I think in the next couple of days we'll see that Serbian and Russian reaction over this will come to nil. I can't say 100% about Serbian leadership of course, but Russia will certainly remain pragmatic about this. I think we all saw this coming, and I honestly don't think that it's worth fighting or even wasting resources over.

Serbs have got,what they have deserved.They are not a nation of fighters.If you do not protect the integrity of your homeland,earlier or later it will be divided to several independent regions,or even occupied.

Do you remember the protest demonstrations during NATO bombing campaign in April,1999?Protesting,demonstrating with music shows is just everything they can.They may forget Kosovo for ages now.

I would like to express my sincere congratulations to all people of Kosovo,as they approached a long awaited end in their aspirations for independence finally.

The Serbs got what they deserved. What a black and white answer.

all this celebrating over the independence of Kosova is a joke. I wonder if people will think this is such a great thing a few years down the line whne we see more fighting there and such like around the world. Dark times are coming.