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Oberon 01-24-08 04:05 PM

He'll probably continue to provoke until we give him the response that he wants. Quite why he's not picked up on the east yet is beyond me, could be he's focusing his attention more to the Middle East than to the Far East, or he's trying to exert his power back over the former WP nations by bullying Georgia and the Ukraine and just hasn't considered China yet, I dunno. However, he is shrewd and calculating, and reasonably popular in quite a few circles last I heard...and let's face it, to successfully run a country like Russia, you need to be damn sharp, as well as good at juggling. ;)

Blacklight 01-24-08 04:19 PM

What's "Intrusive" about it ? They're doing live fire "Exercises" meaning testing and training in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. I don't think at all it's a show of force toward Europe or NATO. If they chose to do this in the south Pacific would it mean they're threatening Japan ? No. I don't believe for an instant that this is for intimidation purposes. I think it's for training, testing, and for showing off weapons systems/sensors to potential buyers.

Kazuaki Shimazaki II 01-24-08 09:53 PM

Not an European, but anyway
 
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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
I hear ya Oberon. But I'm not so sure that Putin is very smart at all. The real threats he faces will come from the East, not the West. You can guarantee that. Russia's future problems will not come from us at all. As a matter of fact, we have shifted much of our emphasis from North Atlantic to the Western Pacific. Any guesses why?

From the Western perspective, until Russia gets a lot more of its strength back, indeed China and the Middle East is a higher priority than the North Atlantic.
To the Russians, it doesn't look that way. True, China may (probably "will") become a threat in the future, especially if they ever get that little island to their right back. But right now at least, they are partners buying their weapons and putting money into thet arms industry. Right now, the threat of NATO encroachment looks a heck of a lot closer. It is the United States putting an ABM station close to their territory, not China.
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I wonder why Putin hasn't caught on yet.
Believe your goodwill? Right...
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Will Europe become perturbed by that type of intrusive exercise? Couldn't the Russians conduct similar exercises in their home waters?
Ask America the same question, and you'll have a whole new perspective. America's national policy depends on doing "intrusive exercises" all over the world. They call it "Show of Force" or "Power Projection".


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