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Letum 12-28-07 02:03 PM

I dislike security cameras that watch people in the street 24/7. It is a oppressive
invasion of the privacy of law abiding people.

Speed cameras are different, they only watch inanimate objects (cars!) and they only take
pictures when the law has been broken, not 24/7. There is no significant invasion of privacy.


I would like to see the speed limited painted on the camera warning signs tho.

STEED 12-28-07 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
I dislike security cameras that watch people in the street 24/7. It is a oppressive
invasion of the privacy of law abiding people.

Here, here. :yep:

lesrae 12-28-07 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
I would like to see the speed limited painted on the camera warning signs tho.

I agree, it's easy to lose track of the limit especially in an area where the limit changes often - not being sure of what speed you should be doing just causes people to slam the anchors on when they finally spot the camera.

The arguments about cameras being in the wrong places is common, I guess the easiest solution to that one is just to put them everywhere - then there's no discrimination ;)

XabbaRus 12-28-07 04:40 PM

There is on camera near me which is in teh middle of the dual carriage way and they turn it 180 degrees every now and then to keep and eye on both directions. Now it is in an area that needs it as there are two roads going into the carriage way making a cross roads and there have been some nasty accidents there. Anyway the speed camera is visible from miles out and everyone knows it is a 70mph zone but still you get people doing 65 slamming on the anchors as soon as they get into the camera zone even if it is pointing the wrong way. Annoying very much indeed as this is more likely to cause an accident than someone keeping their speed constant.

TteFAboB 12-28-07 05:31 PM

Amateurs. When will you brits start burning real stuff, like busses?

And being a nuisance, instead of a full-front crushing assault, it will invite a slapping hand to deal with the pesky mosquito: more cameras to look and protect the cameras.

Kron161 12-28-07 07:07 PM

Less conspicuous than burning the damned thing was what some people did in the netherlands.

They used one of those guns that shoot paint balls and splashed with paint the lenses of all the cameras in a large area. They do not damage property but leave them useless.

One of my work coleagues is from the Netherlands and he maks a point that fighting the speed cameras is a sort of religion in her country.

And yet another one....

http://www.2cm.co.uk/picture_files/217.jpg

lesrae 12-29-07 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB
...more cameras to look and protect the cameras.

It's already in hand mate - this one's near me: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/6305321.stm

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Drivers in a Somerset town claim a spy camera has been erected next to a speed camera which has been repeatedly vandalised.

Fish 12-29-07 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
. But if you travel at the the limit you won't get caught, isn't that the point.

It certainly is!

Ubåtskapten 01-06-08 11:57 AM

Speeding cameras are hell. But here in Sweden they can at least be avoided by wearing a mask of santa claus or the prime minister (or perhaps hiding behind the sun visor). The law requires the driver to be identified so just taking pictures of the number plate won't help them much.:arrgh!:

Kapitan_Phillips 01-06-08 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
I dislike security cameras that watch people in the street 24/7. It is a oppressive
invasion of the privacy of law abiding people.


I know this is a really common argument, but what exactly is meant to be private in a public street?

Kapitan 01-06-08 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish
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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
. But if you travel at the the limit you won't get caught, isn't that the point.

It certainly is!

certainly is not!

i was driving on the refuse collection in wickford theres a speed camera on the main drag i was parked just infront of it and a speeding car over took my lorry but guess who got the ticket?

ME

the only way i managed to get out of it was to hand in my tachograph which proved at the time the incident took place I WAS STATIONARY and if the dumbass of police saw the picture before putting it in an envelope he would have seen the two loaders loading the back end so officer how do my loaders run at 42mph and load?

But it did work wonders for my crew we are now lable best crew in the yard :D

Weigh-Man 01-06-08 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubåtskapten
Speeding cameras are hell. But here in Sweden they can at least be avoided by wearing a mask of santa claus or the prime minister (or perhaps hiding behind the sun visor). The law requires the driver to be identified so just taking pictures of the number plate won't help them much.:arrgh!:

Thats the thing, in the UK they just get the number plate and send a letter to the registered owner, the registered owner then has to tell the police who was driving the car at the time. But to me this is asking you to incremenate yourself, what happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Kapitan_Phillips 01-06-08 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan
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Originally Posted by Fish
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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
. But if you travel at the the limit you won't get caught, isn't that the point.

It certainly is!

certainly is not!

i was driving on the refuse collection in wickford theres a speed camera on the main drag i was parked just infront of it and a speeding car over took my lorry but guess who got the ticket?

ME

the only way i managed to get out of it was to hand in my tachograph which proved at the time the incident took place I WAS STATIONARY and if the dumbass of police saw the picture before putting it in an envelope he would have seen the two loaders loading the back end so officer how do my loaders run at 42mph and load?

But it did work wonders for my crew we are now lable best crew in the yard :D

So dont stop infront of a speed camera? ;)

Kapitan 01-06-08 01:35 PM

When you gotta clear two piles of rubbish infront of one you cant exactly help it.

Happy Times 01-06-08 01:38 PM

We have had incidents where the cameras have been stolen or shot up with a rifle.


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