Sub Vs Sub
 

I think a few people are missing one glaring benefit of this add-on, namely, Sub Vs Sub in Multiplayer mode. I personally think it'd be pretty cool to have the choice of playing either a German or American Sub in Multiplayer, don't you? Besides, I kinda miss my old U-boat from SH3. I know it's not historically accurate, but it sure sounds like fun! Imagine looking through your periscope 100 feet down and seeing a Gato class (crewed by another human in Cyberspace) headed in your direction? Or even better, picking it up on Sonar! Awesome!

In the case of some of the SH3 weapons (ships, anyway) it seems to be as simple as placing the guns.dat/.sim/.zon files inside Library.

RSRD has added such a file (I assume it was from SH3 to go with the converted SH3 ships). I used some of the SH3 weapons in a test, and I can just add them to SH4 ships with the eqps.

I'm not saying it is easy for all of it, but that aspect was surprisingly straight forward, least in my tests.

tater

As a daily member of the Ubi forum (lane2512) I want to chime in here.

MANY did not support KrazyFrenchy.......he requested my help in posting his 'call-in' thread here in this forum and I declined.

I understand the rivalary between the forums. It is natural (hell 99.99% of both forums is pure testosterone). But Ubi has some good people, people who's focus is as dedicated to the PTO as many of the forum members on Subsim.

One of the things that is overlooked is that the Ubi forum is generally going to be the first forum visited by a new skipper simply because of the fact that it is linked to the game via the start menu. Regular Ubi forum members, like myself, gladly point new skippers to this forum for information and mod listings. One of the things that has been very noticable, and welcome, in the last month, is the increased cross traffic between forums. That benefits both of our chosen venues.

Beer and BBQ is available on my deck anytime.

Cheers.

The one multiplayer thing that I'd really like to see added (for single player ;) ) is no instant success. Meaning that you only find out what sank after you RTB.

tater

The world will be our ocean! After all, it was a global conflict. Imagine if you would, all SH3 with the SH4 engine. Years of enjoyment, modding and playing.

I'm sure that will interest many, though I'll not be taking any u-boats for a spin myself.

tater

If its true with playable u-boats - then - in my opinion - it augurs well for future: theres hope that SH5 will have at least two campagins (Pacific and Atlantic). Or even not SH5, but SH4 will be expanded with such addons.
But with uboats or not - i hope the Devs would fix this game so i can play full carreer, not a single mission once a week when im tired of SH3...

Why?

I never go to the UBI forums.

This is my first contact with KFM.

Is it me, or is he rather "Self Important" to himself?

And if he is leaking out things that UBI trusted him with, he needs an ass kicking.

Actually I'm a little disappointed that they chose to go with U boats in the Indian Ocean and not Japanese subs. Would have added a massive new dimension to the game. I've read quite a few accounts of encounters with japanese subs and seem to have been a fairly common occurance, plus the threat of enemy units lurking unseen outside US bases would inject a little excitement to some of the more mundane parts of the game.

I'm staying with the submarine as well. Perhaps Tater has had his fill of the uboats. My interests are with the PTO.

@Limerick a.k.a. Lane

I appreciate your getting in touch. I'm sure that any rivalry that exists between forums is purely for fun. I personally bare you guys no ill will, Crazy French Man will no doubt be punished for his sins in time.

How can you guys call yourselves subsim fans and not wanna check out the semi-new U-boat models in a SH4 (ROW enhanced) environment?! When, for example, you could get close enough to a buddy [in Multiplayer mode], who's on the bridge of a U-boat, while you're on your Gato, to hear him shriek 'ALARM!' in German as he dives his U-boat to get of the way of your deck gun!? How could you wanna miss out on fun like that!?

I will check them out, no doubt. But currently I want to grow with SH4 and explore this theater of war, much like I did with the Atlantic. I have books on top of books about the Atlantic. Now I'm getting book after book for the PTO. New subject matter for me. Not to mention my work on the USS Torsk. It is were my interests lay.

I can’t speak for tater, but in my case I won’t be playing a u-boat either. For me, a lot of it has to do with that we’ve been playing the German side of things for 6+ years since Silent Hunter 2 was released. The original Silent Hunter was released back in 1996, which put a Pacific focused game well over due. As hard as it seems to some people that prefer the Atlantic side of things, some of us actually prefer the Pacific. Neither side is/was more important than the other, however that is honestly where our interest is. Just like some won’t play the Silent Hunter 4 as they have zero interest in the Pacific, that is there right and I don’t fault them for it.

My only concern about the addition of U-boats is if it was done at the sacrifice of fixing, tweaking, or adding other features. For me, I’d rather have had the Narwhal class added as a playable sub and additional Japanese capital ships.