There is also a config file to increase the percent chance of allied planes responding to your report. You can kick it up to 100%.

But again they have to be close enough to launch an attack
 

Yup. But theres still a random chance if they do, or if they don't. This chance is defined in the airstrike.cfg.

So all told, this is why you dont see allied aircraft more.
1.) you have to find something worth reporting.
2.) you have to report it,
3.) make the dice roll if the the base sends out a strike or not.
4.) Have an allied base in range.

Never realised the allied aircraft only appeared if you called in a surface contact that was in range. Explains why there is a lack of allied recon patrols! That kinda sucks on the realism and immersion front.:down:

The reporting rules are so stupid, I never, ever report anything. Which would explain why I don't see them.

You have to be on the surface, within 4500 yards or something, right?

Any way to mod this? In RL, a sub would 100% NEVER turn on the radio within 4500 yards of targets. Never.

If you are that close, and able to be on the surface, you should ATTACK.

If they are able to attack YOU, then you shouldn't be on the surface.

Ideally, the report range should be at the bleeding edge of visibility. In RL you'd only report under specific orders (you'd be trying to shadow out of range of them), or after you had attacked, or if attack was impossible.

tater

Nope you have to be at radar depth or above.
 

If US planes patrol or not, - i dont know.
Ive never seen them except a PBY near pearl once or twice. It could simply be theres not alot of planes defined in the airbase.cfg files and their spread thin.

Reporting contacts while on the surface.
I think the range is hardcoded, but looking at the contacts.cfg or similar file is worth doing in case theres a variable for this there, but offhand i dont think there is. Best way to mod this, is to further extrapolate and refine the visual sensors in general. We really do need a multpile visual node solution if you want elegance.

Yes the contact reports are unrealistic to say the least. In RL contact reports could be sent hours after a sub sighted the enemy, often after the sub had carried out an attack.

Primarily this was because, as you correctly point out Tater, you wouldn't want to be picked up by enemy RDF.

I'm already working on it, actually. :D

tater

Only the Jap Airbase's and Carrier's are set up in game for patrols
 

Not a single US or British airbase will send out a patrol in any way shape or form. They only launch when a radio contact is made or if an Allied ship spots and enemy ship.

I have gone through all of this big time for my game trying to make the air bases launch planes on thier own just like the Jap's do. But absolutly nothing I do seems to make a difference in how they work.

The enemy has to be seen and has to be reported for Allied planes to launch either by you or by an Allied Ship.

At the Northern Coast of Luzon US fishing boats were attacked by a JAP landing force in my game and the Luzon US Airbase sent out planes to attack without my ever sending a contact report.

Get that working, and patch 1.4 or no patch 1.4 ill seriously consider releasing another version of TM. Would give me the opportunity to work in the latest NSM and ROW as well. IN all seriousness though, i have *EVERY* reason to believe their is a forthcoming patch, despite my silly nonsensical poll. :D

I couldn't find any reference to the contact report range.

tater

Even if I made it so you could be at radar depth and not instantly seen, that's not the point :) I think a radio report should be made from farther than 4500 yards regardless of if I get spotted doing it. 4500 yards is simplyy too close, I'd never report at that range even if I could, it would feel so unrealistic as to make any immersion I had go away.

I honestly feel that way about most radio reporting in game, the game in general wants us to be way too chatty.

tater

D and T read this will ya
 

Well, yes, 4500 meters is too close. (game uses meters intrinsicly, so thats what ill say in dicussion). I agree its too close. But a compromise has to be used because we can't change this distance. The compromise being, make it easier (within reason, IE, weather and aspect to target permitting) to get said report off.

With current visual implementation, any change done would be blanketing, and adversly effect all units accross the board. Now If we could invidually handle merchants, warships, and aircraft... now were cooking with gas, and a compromise can be struck.