You know the Church of today, is not the Church of yesterday . . . but it is still the Church. It has moderated itself alot since Vatcian II, and in many ways, it needed to lose its temperal powers, so it can refocus on theology. By no means is it as Liberal as Unitarians . . . but by no means as Conservative as Southern Baptists . . . and being of Man, it is fallible, regardless of what it says. However, that doesn't mean that the Church was the root of all evil, it was misguided at times, but has also preserved much.

Maybe there needs to be a train of thought within their faith where individuals can recongize the fallibility of their religious organizations.

So if it does conflict with faith such as the fact of evolution, cosmology etc. what then? Do they admit faith is in error or do they make the claim the science is wrong?

Missed these forums even if they haven't missed me)

On a lighter note....................Never trust anything that gobbles with a sharpened beak :hmm:

Margaret Thatcher?

Close....right gender anyway :lol:

I totally agree with that mate but if you claim High Moral Ground you should be making sure you're up to the standards you ask the others to be ;)
I totally agree with this point, but what about (Bad, Bad) Syria who does not want to be nuked by Israeli bombes as well (and those actually exist and they're not in planning or development stage)

It is Syria that declared a perpetual state of war with Israel - not vice versa.

It is Syria that directly arms its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza to attack Israel.

It is very simple. If Syria disbanded their armed forces tomorrow, down to the last pistol, what harm would come to Syria from Israel by doing so? Absolutely none.

Now reverse the scenario.

Well it's these kind of thoughts that brought all the countries in the region to fight each other, but I do hope with all my heart that one day you will all learn and manage to live next to each other.

Rhetoric. Historic pulp fiction.

Tomorrow is another day. :sunny:

What? Muslim countries live in harmony with a civilised nation?

C'mon we're talking about people who's religious beliefs hold that, at best, they dissemble peaceful intentions until they can destroy their enemy.

Religion doesn't automatically mean that a person will destroy their enemy. However, if the religion teaches that what must be done, then it is far more likely.

News Flash
 

Owned, again.:up:

Meanwhile, in the darklands.........

Related: Heads up, USA!

Did you read about Russia having developed the mother bomb of all bombs last week?

Guess where it was this week-end ... "For sale at a arms convention meeting", according to ABC news saturday edition. Go to ABC news if you don't believe me.

Who could afford such a bomb as big as that? "Oil has now reached a price of $82.00 a barrel" Just three years ago oil reached it's highest level ever at $55.00 a barrel.

Even the CIA can see war on the way, but which president will it be up to that's the question?