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The Avon Lady 08-27-07 02:56 AM

Back in 2001, it was Japan's turn to deal with a NK ship.

CptSimFreak 08-27-07 04:41 AM

Why not capture it and sell it? They could've made few quick greenbacks.

P_Funk 08-27-07 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycho102
There's a certain amount of truth to that, but it becomes a problem with social interaction. Opiates generally leave people unable to function, socially.

Unless your dealer has an MD right?

If that OG on the corner had a Washington lobby then he'd get to operate out of Pharmasave too.

diver 08-27-07 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak
Why not capture it and sell it? They could've made few quick greenbacks.

We did capture it.

But the thing was svery un-seaworthy, it really wasn't wrth selling.

Okay guys I think some of you are getting the wrong idea

The following did not happen:
We found an NK ship, suspected of running drugs and got the RAAF to blast it to pieces with a dumb bomb, with crew onboard and all.

The following however, did happen:
The pong su was tracked down the coast, it attempted to conduct a drugs transfer of the victorian coast, whilst under fed surveillance. guys on the ground were caught. ship attempted to bolt back up north. was pursued by a frigate. was boarded, crew captured. was taken into port. a few years later. after all evidence was bagged tagged, and addmitted into court. and after the ship was assesed as being unseaworthy and useless. It was taken out to sea. stopped dead in the water, and because no RAN assets were available for a live fire ex. the RAAF just blew it up for show.

bradclark1 08-27-07 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaves
Btw- Weed should be legal if alcohol is. And banning alcohol would be a bad move.

I have to agree with that. They are at the same 'drug' level to me. (Note: I don't do either)

samniTe 08-27-07 08:31 AM

governments war on entrepreneurs!

Jimbuna 08-27-07 09:52 AM

If the boats full of drugs....sink the fecka with them onboard (smugglers) :arrgh!:

swifty 08-27-07 10:16 AM

US Customs and the DEA have have been sinking ships off the coast of Miami and Ft. Lauderdale for some time now. They are turned in to artificial reefs for sport fishing ans SCUBA diving. It's a way to keep them out of the hands of drug runners (they are the only ones who want them) and helps the tourism economy in the area.

The process is quite involved all hazardous materiales including, Oil, Fuel, sewage, asbestos, etc. must be removed prior to sinking in order to prevent an ecological disaster. The US Army Core of Engineers is placed in charge of blasting and sinking.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/CustomsToday/2..._ecosystem.xml

SUBMAN1 08-27-07 11:44 AM

I think this is a great way to get ships for target practice! The US should adopt their policies on this issue! We even get submarines around here that we can practice torpedoing! :up:

-S

VonHammer 08-27-07 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I think this is a great way to get ships for target practice! The US should adopt their policies on this issue! We even get submarines around here that we can practice torpedoing! :up:

-S

yea, since a sub force really has nothin better to do it seems

SUBMAN1 08-27-07 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VonHammer
yea, since a sub force really has nothin better to do it seems

Well, if we had a full strength sub force, there would be some time for practice! 40 or so subs is not going to cut it.

-S

VonHammer 08-27-07 02:00 PM

yea it seems they may need them again- i mean with the way Russias been acting lately who knows what theryre up to. they need someone to keep an eye on them.

Skybird 08-27-07 05:35 PM

It satisfies emotions, yes, but after all it is not more than shooting the messengers. We'll need to bomb those bosses who sent the message. They kill our families, and raise their children in that moral spirit of egoism, and violance. That's why we need to kill their clans and families instead. So that there is nobody left who could carry on their businesses once they are gone.

Either you see it as war, or you have already lost. Currently, our superior and highly socialised and oh so morally high developed civilization has voted for the latter. So why bombing that single ship? It even is not symbolic. It is nothing than a drop of water on the hot stone.

Go all the way, or don't go at all. If you start, and then do not go on, you make ridicule of yourself.

Tchocky 08-27-07 06:10 PM

There's an awful lot under the heading of 'Drugs', too much to claim you can have a war against them. There are hard arguments for and against legalisation, and that multiplies further as you consider indivudual substances.
That "drugs destroy lives" is a product of both physiological effects and the criminalised nature of said drugs.

That's a bit Keyser Soze, Skybird :-?

Skybird 08-27-07 06:46 PM

Is it (whatever that should be)? Let'S be precise: it is acceptance of more violant and martial action against gangsters and mobsters and cartel bosses than what an undifferentiated and unlimited well-meaning anti-authoritarian could bear. War against drug cartels? "But that is noisy! Not in my world! Better let people die in silence in dark corners, let families break apart, and junkeys locked away in closed hospital stations or steal and rob or prostitute themselves to strangers. Look how idyllic my world is!"

Some issue there are where i do not know any pardon, maybe because I had seen some of it from closer view. Torture is something like that, enforced prostitution - and drugs.

Those kinds of drugs that organized crime makes heavy profits with - usually is not of the kind of harmless consummation goods like Cannabis (careful when thinking it is harmless) you make it appear as in order to reject the need for more authoritarian countermeasures. Always unlimited tolerance for everything, right? Always rejecting hierarchies, eh? Where there is no power there can be no harm...

come over here, I can introduce you to a girlfriend of mine, she's still working in a psychiatric hospital. She can show you around a bit, then you learn in just one day what drugs of the sort we talk of really are: slow killers of social systems, and individual lives. Those making profits by selling them and destroying human life have given up civilization's protection of human rights. you can claim these rights only is so far as you respect them yourself. If you violate them to make a profit, you have no more demand to make to benefit from their protection, and as far as I am concerned it then is a question of "as little as possible but as much violance as needed to make you stop at all cost". - And if that kills you, I am not sorry, for you are no loss.


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