One thing I have noticed about the Aviator is that there aren't many programmable buttons (only 5), while the 3D Force Pro has 12. Could I get away with having that few of buttons without using the keyboard much? Because of this fact, I'm leaning on the Logitech now because I don't think I would really use the dual throttles and I would like force feedback.

forget about cfs3 ... get il2 !!! even the first il2 is better than cfs3

Any one remember VOW the virtual war on line with IL2?

:hmm:

Whether 5 buttons will do you depends to some degree on what you want to fly I guess, five buttons is more than adequate for a fighter in IL2, however if you want bomber stuff on your stick, you'd be running out of options. But if you want Force Feedback, then you've answered your own question, as the Aviator isn't FF.

:D Chock

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! :o

I got mine for 25€ from the local store! That sounds like an rip off! :nope:

What comes to getting either CFS3 or IL2, I'd say get the IL2. Over 300 modeled planes with close to 200 as flyable. Also, the engine, graphics and the overall feel is much better in IL2 than in CFS, IMO. :up:

I misread the item name at the Future Shop website when I posted that. It's actually a Logitech FORCE 3D Pro.

Still that price above is a ripp of mate

in the United states it is 69'99 USD on the official logitech website.

That does seem a bit pricy, but I recently learned that I can buy off the Saitek website. So I'm just going to get the Cyborg Evo.