Whell I browsed the manual again and I couldn't find a new list for renown gained / killed ship. I'll look into it some more tonight

Welcome aboard Kaleun Shmidt :arrgh!:

The renown values in the Wiki aren't a million miles out. However, you must also take into account the fact that additional ships, planes etc. have since been added to GWX :up:

Warships

• King George Battleship = 1500
• Nelson Battleship = 1400
• Revenge Battleship = 1100
• Illustrious Carrier = 900
• Hipper Carrier = 760
• Bogue Carrier = 560
• Casablanca Carrier = 420
• AuxiliaryCruiser = 420
• Fiji Class Cruiser = 430
• Dido Class Cruiser = 225
• Fletcher Destroyer = 150
• Somers Destroyer = 140
• Tribal Destroyer = 140
• C & D Destroyer = 130
• J Class Destroyer = 130
• Soldati Destroyer = 130
• Buckley Class Destroyer = 130
• J.C. Butler Class Destroyer = 130
• River Class Destroyer Escort = 130
• Black Swan Frigate = 125
• Evarts Destroyer = 120
• Clemson Destroyer = 120
• Hunt I Destroyer = 120
• Hunt II Destroyer = 120
• Hunt III Destroyer = 120
• V&W Class Destroyer = 120
• Flower Corvette = 120
• Armed Trawler = 30
• Elco Torpedoboat = 20

Merchants

• Passenger Liner = 870
• Troop Transport = 390
• T3 Tanker = 340
• T2 Tanker = 320
• C3 Cargo = 240
• Victory Cargo = 230
• Liberty Cargo = 220
• Landing Ship Tank = 220
• C2 Cargo = 190
• Small Tanker = 125
• Small Merchant = 70
• Coastal Merchant = 60
• TugBoat = 30
• Trawler = 20
• Small Coastal Vessel = 20
• Fishingboat = 20

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Renown per aeroplane

Fighters

• Hurricane = 20

Bombers

• B24 = 100
• Wellington = 70
• Sunderland = 70
• PBY = 70
• Avenger = 50
• Swordfish = 20

Seems to me that aircraft carriers should be worth more than a battleship. I understand the German mentality about it, but they were the most dangerous things on the high seas.

Welcome aboard matey:up:

For tips on how to survive GWX, theres plently of stuff on this forum. But if all that fails, i have one simple word for you:

ALARM!!!!!!

(Or just blame Bernard- everyone else does)

I find it more reasonable - the British Carriers were not raising the same threat as the American ones did in the Pacific. Even the Illustrious was carrying mosly Swordfish biplanes that were not as dangerous as modern aircraft... They did help to sink the Bismark but it still took the old battleships to seal the deal.

Aircraft and 'Jeep' Carriers often shadowed the convoys headed north to Russia. Disembarking vitally needed fighters to Russia, Gibraltar, Malta, North Africa etc. It was due mainly for that reason that Hitler would not allow his heavy units out into the Atlantic for fear of them being damaged or sunk.

The effect/impact carriers had in the Pacific is well documented (and rightly so). But do not underestimate the contribution made by their lesser/unsung British cousins.

I didn't meant to underestimate them, they were very important ships, no doubt about that. I was just commenting on the SHIII renown values, thinking that they had (IMHO) less obvious (at that time) firepower than a battleship. I wonder, if a kaleun had a choice of firing his torps either at on battleship or a Bogue carrier, which one he would have gone for?

Considering the German mental state. I have no idea which they would shoot for.

I always thought carriers were more important, my naval education began in the pacific.

Seems like even after the advent of radar, carriers would have been able to see farther and faster than any other surface vessel and therefore would get every eel available too me.

With reference to personal firepower your absolutely correct :yep: But try to imagine the firepower they could project via their airwing and I believe that would be far greater :yep:
As for which one to go for....purely hypothetical and probably never been tested in RL conditions :hmm: ....I'd go for the shot that had the best chance of success ;)

Well, I think thats a no brainer.