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P_Funk 06-14-07 05:12 AM

I once had a toy that said "Made in the USA". I thought 'thats funny'. I then looked on the bottom of the toy where it said again "Made in the USA", however this time it had two extra words in brackets: "(Puerto Rico)".

I laughed my ass off for a while there.

TteFAboB 06-14-07 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Food for thought. :hmm:

Watch the cholesterol!

There are two kind of things that are made in China: 1) off-shored products and 2) original Chinese products.

As far as I know I think most of the known components you have listed are foreign products, even if from neighbor SKorea, their factories are to Chinese factories as an embassy is to national Chinese territory, except for most of the staff, which is recruited locally.

There are plenty of Chinese crap (non-off-shored products) to be found, from TVs to shoes to toys. Worse than those are the Chinese pirated trash, from purses to lethal toothpastes.

Skybird pointed out the trend though: improve the pirated goods untill they are sufficiently good to compete with the real things thanks to the cheaper prices.

Steel_Tomb 06-14-07 10:40 AM

I think we are forgetting about the people who make these cheap goods. Obviously some goods will be of higher quality...but there are some which are made cheap for quick profit. Made by children and other people who are forced to work long hours for little money. China needs to get its act together and actually start to think about more than the size of its bank balance and economic growth.

Konovalov 06-14-07 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Food for thought. :hmm:

Watch the cholesterol!

GP gave me a clean bill of health the other month. I'm not worried. :smug:

I Agree with what you have said. I was simply making the point that China can and do make world class quality goods which is more of a worry than the junk that they spew out through cheap almost slave labour.

moose1am 06-14-07 01:47 PM

You can say that again!
 
Today's cheap labor is the equivalent of the 1880's slaves. People will always try to exploit other people and the Chinese are going a good job of exploiting their people. Trouble is those Chinese people don't know any better and this is the best they have ever had it. So they think they are in 7th Heaven when they get to work for peanuts and work 20 hours a day 7 days a week for just a few bucks. Sad but true.

What concerns me more is that all the money we spend and send to China is being used by the Chinese Government to build more nuclear weapons and submarines. China's emerging out of the 16th Century into the 21st century in a big way and with their 1.7 billion people they will consume a lot more resources than I would like to see them use.

For what they use we can't. If you get my drift. They are one of the reasons why Oil Prices are so high these days. Not that we don't use our fair of the worlds resources. Hehe. But hey I would not want it any other way.

We need to maintain our military power over the world if we want to retain our current lifestyles here in the US. Right now my lifestyle is threatened by high oil prices, illegal Mexicans and the Chinese trade deficit.


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Stop global enterprises make slave of Chinese people!


moose1am 06-14-07 01:56 PM

You forget to mention the Dog Food with the dangerous Chemical Additives that was made in China. And then there is the toothpaste that also has some potentially dangerous chemicals in it. And then the toys that are painted with paint that contains LEAD. Lead is a neurotoxin that can cripple young children. It's like most heavy metals that can concentrate inside our bodies and damage the nervous system to the point of failure.

China has not EPA or OSHA and they subject those poor farm workers to torturous conditions. Only one in 3700 Chinese have access to an automobile right now. But that number is growing every day you buy stuff from the Chinese. We owe too much Money to China the way it is with the trade imbalance between the USA and China.

If they would pay their workers more money and treat them with better working conditions they would not be able to dump cheap products on the USA. Sure we would pay more for goods but at least they would be safer to consume.

China has no FDA or any other government office that inspects their products for consumer safety. We can buy stuff from China but we can't buy our pharmaceuticals from Canada? That doesn't make sense unless you realize how powerful the drug companies are here in the USA. They can charge what they fell like for their legal drugs and prevent any competition at the same time.

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I hate Chinese crap anyway. I go out of my way to buy American, or at least from some other country if I can. Chinese garbage always breaks anyway, so it is worth the extra dollar you have to spend to buy from another country.

THis bill better pass!!!

-S

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...16E&refer=home

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Four U.S. senators introduced legislation today that would allow American companies to petition for steeper import tariffs to counter the benefit of any undervalued currencies in China or other countries.

That got me thinking. :-? What components within my PC or peripherals that I use are made in China? My initial thoughts were that few would be simply because of the fact that most of the stuff inside my case or that I use with my computer are of good or high quality and have always had good reviews. So here is the list that I have come up with so far:

Asus P5B Deluxe Wifi-AP motherboard - Made in China
Corsair Dominator memory - Assembled in USA
Sharkoon Golfball 120mm case fans - Made in China
Saitek Eclipse II keyboard - Made in China
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers - Made in China
Logitech MX Revolution mouse - Made in China
Olympus Mju-410 4megapixel digital camera - Made in China
Zalman VF900-Cu VGA cooler - Made in Korea
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU - Made in either Costa Rice, China, Philippines, or USA
Seasonic M12 600w modular PSU - Made in China
XFX Geforce 7900GS - Assembled in China with parts from Taiwan, USA, Korea and oh China again.
Seagate hard drive - haven't found out
Samsung DVD burner - haven't found out yet
Antec P180B case - guessing USA but could be wrong
Broadband modem - Made in China

Everything listed above has performed faultlessly and does what it claims to do. Most of it was made in China. Not all products from China are garbage or crap. Food for thought. :hmm:



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