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FAdmiral 06-13-07 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USS_shipmaster
My method unfortunately gives me only 30-35% chance at best with 3 torpedoes shots.
Gents, may be you have better method??? Thanks for help.

30-35% chance of killing the DD and staying alive?? Any real sub skipper
would tell you those are long odds and way too risky. Better to play it
safe and live to fight another day....

JIM

FAdmiral 06-13-07 04:02 PM

Doesn't it strike you as odd that everyone wants a total real game
but plays it like there's no tomorrow! Reality is as reality does....

JIM

SteamWake 06-13-07 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Doesn't it strike you as odd that everyone wants a total real game
but plays it like there's no tomorrow! Reality is as reality does....

JIM

Reality doesent have a save game feature.

FAdmiral 06-13-07 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Doesn't it strike you as odd that everyone wants a total real game
but plays it like there's no tomorrow! Reality is as reality does....

JIM

Reality doesent have a save game feature.

That is until they discover time travel, then reality will have a save !!


JIM

XLjedi 06-13-07 07:03 PM

In SH3 I could set TDC to zero speed and take a shot from the hip and had a prayer with magnetic... maybe 10% if we're honest.

In SH4... forget it... DIVE! By the time I readjusted the stupid position keeper the destoyer's keel would be halfway cross my deck.

I'm waiting for the anti-position keeper TDC mod. :yep:

kv29 06-13-07 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronblood
In SH3 I could set TDC to zero speed and take a shot from the hip and had a prayer with magnetic... maybe 10% if we're honest.

In SH4... forget it... DIVE! By the time I readjusted the stupid position keeper the destoyer's keel would be halfway cross my deck.

I'm waiting for the anti-position keeper TDC mod. :yep:

why? as I said, just set the tdc to: speed 0, aob 0, distance 500+ (whatever) and you are set to fire a straight running torpedo (bow or stern).

XLjedi 06-13-07 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kv29
Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronblood
In SH3 I could set TDC to zero speed and take a shot from the hip and had a prayer with magnetic... maybe 10% if we're honest.

In SH4... forget it... DIVE! By the time I readjusted the stupid position keeper the destoyer's keel would be halfway cross my deck.

I'm waiting for the anti-position keeper TDC mod. :yep:

why? as I said, just set the tdc to: speed 0, aob 0, distance 500+ (whatever) and you are set to fire a straight running torpedo (bow or stern).

I guess I'll have to try it again...

I just haven't had much luck with the PK allowing me to look-down-shoot-down. Yeah OK... maybe you can rig the PK for a straight shot, but I wanna use my scope wire again.

SteamWake 06-13-07 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Doesn't it strike you as odd that everyone wants a total real game
but plays it like there's no tomorrow! Reality is as reality does....

JIM

Reality doesent have a save game feature.

That is until they discover time travel, then reality will have a save !!


JIM

then you can travel back in time and die again :know:

greyrider 06-14-07 05:49 AM

@USS_shipmaster

I usually do not use TDC in this case - because it absolutely useless
Of couse DDs know where I am with let say 70 % certaincy therefore I am under attack.
I am using salvo with 5-10 angle difference when I m shooting my 3 torpedoes

this might be part of the problem uss, i think your spreads are alittle to wide,

and i'm asuming your talking about a down the throat shot.

i looked at this in sh3, and its easier in sh3, i got on collison course with closing dd,
bow to bow, then fired one torpedo straight out, 0 AOB, the dd will see or hear it coming, and take evasive action, this is what im waiting for, his ecasive maneuvers,
once he started with his EM, my torpedoes set to 2 degree spread, left shoot, then right shoot, he'll smash right into one of them.

the dd just wants to get out of the way of the first torpedo, turning just enough to
make it miss, then he'll hard charge back to you.

this is a very risky maneuver for a submarine, and expends to much ammunition,

but, it is just a game, so have fun.

by the way, what do you think, do you think roger clements will go into the hall of fame
as a red sox or yankee?

tater 06-14-07 08:36 AM

Real arming distance was 450 yards, so if it's 600 yards away and closing at high rate, there is no way the fish gets there before it arms unless at the start of said scenario you already had a solution and the doors open.

Of course in the stock game the arming distance is reduced to 220m for some inexplicable reason (perhaps that was what it was for german torpedos?).

tater

the_belgian 06-14-07 09:31 AM

1)be sure to have 2 torpedoes set at high speed in your aft torpedo tubes.
2)"run off" in a straight line away from the DD on low speed
3)wait untill he is almost on top of you and hit him with 1 or 2 torpedoes set for contact
4)lower periscope
5)flank speed and 35° to left or right
6)"dive!dive!dive! to about 150 feet
7)hear the bastard die:arrgh!:

USS_shipmaster 06-15-07 03:52 AM

Thanks gents!
VK

USS_shipmaster 06-15-07 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyrider
@greyrider

by the way, what do you think, do you think roger clements will go into the hall of fame
as a red sox or yankee?

I was born in europe and lived there for 28 years and I have only 8 years life experience as an american and baseball is not in my blood. Baseball still is a great mystery for me. Therefore i can not answer your question with expert level... I think he will be probably remembered as Yankee with a red sox ;-) !
I like both kind of football ,classic european and american rugby. I like Patriots and Giants( last one because its from a place I live). But I m still a rookie even in the company of expert fans of american football ( I started to understand and love it only 3 years ago, thanks to a friend who invited me to drink beer during playing NFL on PS2 :-) ).

greyrider 06-15-07 07:01 AM

USS_shipmaster
welcome aboard the uss america, glad to have you here!

i'm hoping roger goes in as a yankee, i watch both games when he struck
out 22 batters in two games, i think that was about the best pitching a ever saw.
after the bull sox management sold off rick burelson, fred lynn, and carlton fisk
in 75 or 78, that was it for me with the red sox, they were a team i loved.
i thought that team of red sox in 75 or 78, was as good as the 1927 yankees, but
once they destroyed the team by selling off those players, i became a yankee fan,
and all i want to see now is the yankee's blowing away the red sox, game after game after game, no mercy.
they did the same with roger and the babe.:nope:

Palidian 06-15-07 09:37 AM

Make some noise, so the DD heads right for you, set the torp at 0 feet, line up straight twards or away from the DD. Open the door, and wait until 500 yards, and cut one loose, crash dive and make a 90' turn. Rince and repeat.


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