I agree with you 100%. But Putin is smart enough to know domination can't be an option on the table for the foreseeable future. So he'll do what he can to counter western influence, including knocking off (or at least trying to) heads of state that may be receptive or even solicit Western overtures.

PD

Here's the Global Security Article on the RS-24/SS-X-29

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Personally, I don't see how creating a ABM site in Poland and the Czech Radar is a "threat to Moscow." Of course, him being Putin in all, he's probably just using it as an excuse to continue Russia's Nuclear-Ballistic Missile program.


Time to re-activate the Peacekeeper, mabye?:hmm:

I agree with you 100% :lol:

Read the thread.

He doesn't need an excuse. The strategic rocket forces are not going to go away anytime soon.

PD

When you are trying to cold start a cold war you grasp at whatever excuse you can to ratchet things up a bit.

[quote=ASWnut101]I did. I just made a statement on his statement. That is, unless he didn't make the statement, which means that there is no statement, which means...:hmm:

...I'm crazy.:o

Never said that. I just said that (nearly like Subman's post) he's using it to improve his forces, breaking any treaties along the way.

Bingo.

This BMD System sounds like a pork barrel project to me.

i back russia 100%... america doin dumb things like their missile defences... now who the hell would put missile defences in europe when the threat is north Korea and Iran, which everyone knows thatthey dont have the technology to fire stuff that far:roll::roll:..

`Cause neither has the technology to do anything, yet.

Why put a huge amount of BMD equipment when you could just drop a penetrating GBU-28 on their "Launch Pad?" AEGIS DDGs and CGs are patrolling off Japan, and the new X-band radar installed south of Alaska gives us plenty of protection there.

Remember, the NK's couldn't even get thier Tapodong 30 seconds into flight. Their "nuclear test" was a failure (mostly; it did explode, but not with any truly damaging force, about 1/2 kiloton or less). Iran, to our knowledge, does not have nukes, either.

[quote=ASWnut101]My apologies, ASW. Guess I miss interpreted your post. Oh, and the part about statements makes me think my head's going to explode. :)

PD

Because US defence policy is NOT to counter the known threat. It is what's called "full spectrum dominance". This means, basically, US defense policy is to counter all /imaginable/ threats.

PD

"Putin using this for propaganda purposes" - yep, totally agreed. Any administration can take lessons on how to use anything for propaganda purposes from Putin. He is a consummate politicians and has gotten away with using far, far worse things for propaganda. Most propaganda for him has been internal.

I disagree with assessing him as a threat in some sort of Cold War sense. He's not a threat, not a partner, he's just a guy with a huge country and a heap of historical baggage. He and his people are much smarter than that. Russia has real power and strategic interests and has no less right to them than anyone else. As it stands, Russia is neither a democracy, nor a USSR, nor a Russian Empire, and they're certainly not threatening your countries or ways of life in ways that some, ahem, other elements today might be. I would rather the West recognized them and worked with them more pragmatically; frankly I don't think you'll be seeing Soviet tanks anywhere in Europe anytime soon, but European tanks might well be need to run on Russian-produced gas for the foreseeable future.

I think the West is in the causeless-revenge-mode (for what?) again. In that same mode, they blew the chance to help a real democracy get established in Russia; now it's too late. It's not too late not to antagonize the current state though and work with them on peaceful terms.

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LOL

"ESTIMATED ranges of POTENTIAL missiles from a POTENTIAL source with a margin of error of 2250km"

Could you be any more certain? :roll:

bring back the CCCP!