And if you undertake step 5, any subsequent angst will be lessened. ;)

Ok, I am backing the clean/patched to 1.4 install of Sh3 to a disk. One question, I noticed that the fr_help and fr_menu are missing after patching (didn't check after clean install) I do have howver the engligh and german ones... is that normal?

Next, I am planning on installing SH3 Commander, then GWX. Is that the proper order, does it really matter? Thanks and sorry for all the (possibly really dumb) questions! :)

I'd install GWX first :yep:

Thanks Jim, I will follow your recommended order... do you know if missing the fr_help and fr_menu files from the install will cause problems running the game? I noticed they are missing after patching.

When you install the GWX you should run the JSGME embedded within the file once to create a 'MODS' folder. You should see a choice called 'Fix French'.
If they're not then I'm afraid I'm stumped mate. lets hope Jaesen comes along soon :hmm:

Hey, what do you know, installed GWX and the fr_help and fr_menu files are now there... I think I am good. Off to patch GWX to 1.03 now, and the SH3 Commander... Thanks a bunch!

Great...now go for it :up:

Ok, did all the uninstall and install steps specified above. Clean Sh3 install, patch, install GWX, patch, install SH3 Commander. Started a new career via SH3C and I still the same problem!

So, when I hit F1, the first entries are cool, but once I hit Enemies of Germany, instead of getting the enemies (Sept 1st 1939, so it should be Poland at this time) I get the keyboard entries for Time Compression, Even Camera, Periscope and Snorkel Control, and Free Camera Control... :hmm:

Then I get nothing for Resupply Info, Uboat & Distance Info, Flotilla News I and Flotilla News II.

I can see how maybe the last ones are not applicable this early, and hence could possible be blank at this moment in the war, but the Enemies of Germany weirdness puzzles me...

Other than that, the game is running great, and I don't see anything else unusual...

The fr files are not included in stock SH3. French language support was a half-finished inclusion to patch 1.4b. The files are usually installed as part of a specific French language pack (the French community had to essentially finish the feature). As SH3 does, however, support the third language (as opposed to all other languages which are simply en replacements), GWX included a French translation by default.

Re your problem Javigato, I have no idea. But it's 100% GUARANTEED to be an installation problem, otherwise 10,000 other players would have noticed it. I certainly don't have the problem.

Yea, I suppose it must be an install problem, otherwise like you said, it would be more than 1 person with the problem... The weird thing is that the files the screen is referencing (en_help and en_menu) seem ok... I wonder if I need to look somewhere else, I hope there's a way to manually fix it...

Thanks!

You know, I was thinking, I ran the SH3 installer with my normal user, I did not specify to run as the Administrator, then for the 1.4 patch, I had to run it as the Administrator, otherwise the patch did not recognize the SH3 version. Then for GWX and SH3Commander, I ran them as the normal user, not Administrator.

Do you guys think this could be it? That unless I run everything as the administrator the installs are suspect? Just wondering, since I am running out of ideas after looking and relooking at the files hoping to find the problem :oops:

I would recommend you go back to post #14 and follow the instructions to the letter as an administrator on your computer. :yep:

Thanks Jim, I will try that and see if it resolves it.

Back in this post... :) Uninstalled and reinstalled as directed in post 14. I did again the clean install of Sh3, this time made sure I ran it as Administrator, reboot, install patch 1.4 also as Administrator, reboot, ran GWX as Administrator, reboot, ran GWX patch 1.03 as Administrator and rebooted.

This time I decided NOT to install SH3Commander, just to see if I can start ruling things out, and I can confirm that the problem is not SH3Cmdr related, because I have the same issue with GWX 1.03 and no SH3Cmdr.

As a precaution, I verified the installers and bins, and all checked out prior to installs... I really don't know at this point what can be causing this, and how to correct it, especially since I am the only one with this problem... :damn:

The good news is that the game runs fine, so that's cool, and this missing fields in the F1 are not "required" and I should just let go and enjoy the awesome game this is with GWX :D

Thanks to all that have chipped in so far to help me out, I really appreciate it, and if someone has any other ideas, please let me know.

I'm getting annoying, aren't I? ;) So, does the F1 list of options/info really read off of the en_help file? I just tried modifying some entries in the en_help file to see if they show up in game when I hit F1, but they don't, the lists are the same as prior to making the changes, so me thinks the F1 information is being read from somewhere else... Any ideas?