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XanderF 04-18-07 10:58 AM

FWIW, if buying a whole computer from scratch it too daunting (of you just want a smaller case), you may want to consider Shuttle 'barebones' systems. They are so-called "XPCs", which are much smaller than regular PCs - toaster size, basically. That's always been a huge selling point for me, but I live in a rather tiny condo in the city.

Anyway, I'll vote for Newegg, too, great customer service (better than Best Buy by a long shot), and great prices. Ships FAST, too.

And they carry XPCs. :know: That will get you the case, cooling, power supply, and mobo. All you need is a CPU, ram, video card, and disk drives.

As to "buy ATI for HDR+AA"...first off, I'm an ATI guy. I like ATI cards. That said, the brand-spankin-new GeForce 8600GTS (released literally YESTERDAY) has better price-to-performance than ATI's offerings at the moment. And the 8-series GeForce cards can also do HDR+AA.

If I were building a system today (wish I was, but I'm not), it would like something like this:

$270 Shuttle SD32G2
$139 Intel Core 2 E4300
$154 2gb OCZ PC2 5400 ram
$200 eVGA GeForce 8600GTS
$75 Seagate Barracuda 250gb SATA hdd
$26 Silver CDRW/DVD drive
$90 Windows XP SP2 OEM (still too many problems with Vista for my taste)
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$954

And that's everything - whole new system. EASY to assemble, and the Shuttle kit comes with a fold-out full color flyer with all the steps needed. Only caveat is that I can't speak to the color of the CD drive matching the case. Shuttle USED to make a silver CDRW/DVD driver that perfectly matched their cases colors, but...can't seem to find one, now.

fredbass 04-18-07 11:37 AM

Sounds like you may want to go the route of a new PC.

I ended up researching my various hardware options at places like Newegg while viewing their customer reviews and pricing. That gave me lots of ideas. Then I talked to someone at a local computer repair shop. After a few discussions and return trips to Newegg, I finally decided on what I wanted and had the local shop build me a custom computer.

So my advice... Whether you do it yourself or have someone do it for you, make it custom to your preference, and use a big case with plenty of room to breath and grow. :up:

jerryt 04-18-07 03:37 PM

ZipZoomFly is also a good place to buy components, and free shipping to boot. I bought all my last build from there without any problems.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp

Caltone 04-18-07 04:02 PM

NewEgg, ZipZoomFly, and MWave are all good resellers. As a starting point, I recommend taking a look here before you buy anything online:

http://resellerratings.com

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CaptainHaplo 04-18-07 06:18 PM

Mate, I am running SH4 on a AMD 1800 (thats 1.5Ghz) and a ati 9800 Pro - and it runs fine. And I have less than a gig of memory! However, like you I will be upgrading soon. The question is - how much horsepower do you need?

For instance - my next rig is going to be a mid level machine - Intel dual core 2.13 running 2gigs of ram with a X1650 vid card. Dual HD's, a DL dvd burner, required floppy, motherboard, case, additional fans and power supply - everything I need to build the box. I already have a licensed copy of XP so I dont need another.
Cost of parts - all from Newegg - last I checked was 797 plus 36 for shipping and such. Its not a monster rig - but more than capable of running SH4 maxed out.

Dont spend $2k - if you dont want to do it yourself then get a local PC outfit to do it - or heck - I'll put the thing together for you if your willing to pay the shipping.

Going with an off the shelf product does have its advantages - its warrantied and you can take it to the store if it breaks - but if your going to go that route - I suggest Dell. They will send a tech to you if your system breaks under warranty. But if your going to drop that kind of cash into a system - either build your own screamer - or get it from a company that is going to provide uber-support - and dont allow them to put all the gunk on it - tell em you want it WITHOUT an OS instaled. Otherwise shelf companies add in all kinds of crud that sucks up performance.

Its a tough choice - you will get alot more bang for the buck if you do it yourself. Either way - enjoy!

Good Hunting!
Captain Haplo

NefariousKoel 04-19-07 12:41 AM

I, personally, can't recommend Dell too much.

I've been repairing PCs for years and their Hitachi hard drives crash or most often develop severe sector problems. They die regularly enough within a year or two, comparitively. Laptops and Desktops both.

Last week I had a customer with that exact problem. Dell told her that it was a software issue. After checking it out.. it was a faulty hard drive. I charged her a pretty moderate price for this info and after that, admittedly, they didn't give her any problems sending her a new hard drive. However, she had to pay yet more for me to clone her old hard drive to the new working one. They did not send a tech out to fix the issue. They just expected her to start fresh. She ended up spending about $145 getting it back to where it used to be. I won't mention how many tries it took me to clone the stinkin' thing without failure before I finally got it. She's lucky everything made it.. very close call.

Dude, don't buy a Dell.;)

THE_MASK 04-19-07 06:55 AM

A new case , motherboard , power , 2 gigs of 800mhz ram , 8800 series graphics card , and core 2 duo e6600 cpu should be about $1500 .


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