Yes, please. No more gun debates here, this is inappropriate.

I should say I'm disturbed. Good thing BBC mentioned "Virginia Tech" right away; if the news said "university in Virginia", I'd have really freaked out. A really close friend of mine whose birthday happens to be today is a student at UVA.

A report from the Univerity staff:

http://www.vt.edu/campus_alert.php

waste gate had the great idea to bump an old guns thread (:roll:) and since it doesn´t make sense to have a gun debate in three different threads I´ve moved the guns debate posts from here and some from the "Dept Homeland security calls Gangs greatest threat to National Security???" thread to this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109983

You sure that is a good idea? Now the threads will all be screwed up and hard to read.

It´s hard to please everybody, it was better than doing nothing at all.

I was trying to help. My thought that the older thread was better than starting a new thread about firearms.

Sorry if it gave you a (:roll:) feeling.

The general idea wasn´t bad really, but when a discussion is already going in two threads it´s not helpful to bump a third one that´s about pretty much about the same.

I hadn't looked at those other threads because the titles didn't interest me and I didn't know what was going on there. I saw micky bring up the firearm debate and your closing his thread and thought an older thread where I and many others had placed our positions on record would save everyone, including the mods, a bit of time.

Probably catch flack for this but oh well. How did these people learn the behavior that in a situation like this you line up and take it? Can it be that ever since a majority of the victims probably grew up during the 90's that all that was ever drummed into their heads from the liberal educational system, is to not resist.

My flight instincts would have kicked in since the laws at the current time do not allow guns on campus, even though the perp had them. So whatever happend to people manning up and overwhelming this gunman, sure a few might have been sacrificed for the good of the rest, but what has happened to this society that resistance has become futile? Quite frankly that is more disturbing than some nut who was able to get a gun either legally, or illegaly.

You sum it up correctly. The guy only had a pistol, so make a break for it! I would. Be scary to do, but better trying and dying, than just dying. Besides, it is impossible to hit things accurately that are over 20 feet with a pistol unless its motionless. This is why hunters and the military go at it with rifles.

If it was a low quality one, just pull the slide off :P Then shove it up his ass.

(is biased)

Well having had guns pointed at me in anger, things change. It is damn scary to have someone point a gun at you. It is easy to say now what we would or would not do, but the shock and disbelief that overcomes you in that situtation changes your prespective.

I would not be too hard on the victims. This is a situtation that 18-24 year old college students are not usually prepared for (nor should they be)

Faith and fear are a lot alike in the small amount of time that it takes to replace each other ... Click!
They are just alike ...

I suspect fear got them to all obey, even if it had of been a water pistol ...

Yes, it's sad and sadder still all of the crazy's that will want to imitate this act for who knows what reason ...

I'm sad to hear of this mass shooting. We had one here over ten years ago, which caused as much shock here as some in America would be feeling now.

My thoughts are with them.

*UPDATE*

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/...041607.article