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Blood_splat 04-15-07 10:14 PM

Lawyers:damn:

L3TUC3 04-15-07 10:21 PM

Wait, there's Brewster Buffaloes in the game? I havent seen those yet. Where are they hiding?

I'm making a Dutch East Indies mod and knowing the buffaloes are in already would make stuff a lot easier.

Tigrone 04-15-07 11:37 PM

Buffalos are the only US fighter implemented, I believe.
 
The Buffalo, F2A, is the game's generic US fighter. It may be the only US fighter and is on every US carrier in the game. Check the Battle off Samar mission, and you'll see them.

Tigrone 04-15-07 11:54 PM

Tarnish, how did you swap the B24 for the Lanc?
 
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Originally Posted by Tarnish_UK
I've replaced the Lancaster and the Helldiver with the SH3 Liberator and Avenger which is a good stop gap measure, I did have the PBY Catalina in there too for a short while but it won't show up now for some reason I just the B24 for the bomber and the patrol aircraft. Well it's better than nothing.

The Lancaster was mapped as both the US generic bomber and patrol plane. That's probably why your PBY did not hold; the game mapped both generic types to the same .dds file. But, how did you swap the B24 for the Lancaster? Please keep the answer to an idiot's guide level if you could?

LukeFF 04-16-07 06:16 PM

I know about the legal issues Ubi ran into with Pacific Fighters. Thanks to them, now everyone modeling Grumman-produced aircraft must pay a licensing fee to them - not too long ago I saw a model F4U Corsair at a toy store, and sure enough the box print said "F4U Corsair is a trademark of Northrop Grumman."

The issue with Combat Mission and "Waffen Grenadier" was that Battlefront could not use the term "Waffen SS" in the european release of the game, due to legitimate legal issues with countries that have banned and/or restricted the use of Nazi terminology and symbolism. Fair enough. We've yet to see the F4F and SBD in SH4 because Ubi made a stupid marketing decision with Pacific Fighters, got called on the carpet for it by Grumman, and now pass the end result on to us, the consumers. Oh, but I see they managed to get the Corsair on the box art. Geez, thanks. :roll:

To those who say, "oh, just copy/paste in the planes from SH3," or "the modders will fix this in due time," stop giving Ubi excuses like this! Every time you say this, you give them more reason to put games out in an unfinished state, knowing that players will gleefully take any scraps thrown their way and fix any problems on their own time. Ubi is just another example of a corporation that pushes out games too soon, just so they can bring in more sales at the expense of quality. Thankfully there are wargame publishers like Battlefront that aren't like Ubi and DO care about the quality of the software they release. Look at how long they have held back the release of Theatre of War, to make sure everything was working properly and to code things in people requested! I guarantee you, a Silent Hunter 4 published by them would simply blow away anything put out by Ubi, simply because they care about doing things right.

V.C. Sniper 02-11-10 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blood_splat (Post 498839)
Lawyers:damn:

r useless and lame

LukeFF 02-11-10 05:45 PM

Wow, a thread of mine from 2007! :D

razark 02-11-10 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 1265110)
Wow, a thread of mine from 2007! :D

Yup. They've done the same thing in SH5. This thread will probably be getting a few references soon.

Bubblehead1980 02-11-10 07:11 PM

yet another thing that always ticked me off but modders could put them in the PTO.I mean i played Op Monsun and had TBFs , Wildcats and I think a PBY come after me

Modders should not have to pick up so much of the slack though.Blah

Sailor Steve 02-11-10 07:13 PM

I never mind necro threads. Sometimes they are even helpful.

What gets me, though, is the way people usually don't mention it, they just pick up the conversation where it left off...two years ago.
:rotfl2:

cheese123 02-11-10 09:06 PM

I wonder how Battlestations: Midway and Pacific got the Dauntless and Avenger aircraft in their game?

Bubblehead1980 02-12-10 04:30 PM

Prob paid some money and companies agreed.Business plane and simple.UBI shouldnt be cheap


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