http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/a6m.htm

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/b5n.htm

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/d3a.htm

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/h6k.htm

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/g4m.htm

I got that map of the game nearby to do the same thing, but since my sub is in the dropping agents ashore business I have no choice to go in those areas.

I have a simple rule though, two contacts: I dive, 1 contact: I shred it.

There is a rather easy way to make it rather hard for them to hit you and that is to wait until I can see them in the binoculars and when they are within range of my gunners I'll go flank ahead and make a sharp turn directly towards them. Makes them miss their bombs 10 of 10 times (so far) and then they get a goodbye present from my flak crew. ;)

:oops:

Boy, do I feel sillly now. Sorry gents.

None the less the aircraft do indeed have problems. None of the patrol aircraft (H6K, H8K. or Allied types for that matter) should be cruising at their maximum speed. There is also the problem with their weapons loadouts, and more importantly their frequency and tactics. During a coop I was in last night (after you left Bury) I saw an H8K "Emily" fly over the scene of the battle, pull straight up, do a wing over into a dive and drop bombs. No 4 engined flying boat could ever do that, even one as good as the Emily was in real life. It seems all aircraft are coded to behave like single engine fighters.

I think they missed the point JC

I didn't, but I think it is a point without a point. ;)

One thing concerning the Mavis, is when they attack your boat, they dive bomb like an Aichi Type 97 Val. If anything they should be performing a glide bombing run, in a very shallow dive so as not rip the wings off. PBY Catalina Squadrons did the same thing when pressed into an offensive roll to assist in a big battle.

Also, they should be pulling out at about 1,500ft. where I've watched them get as low as 50ft during a pullout. This would mean that a diving attack shouldn't surpass the 130 to 150mph mark to give the plane time to pull out of it's attacking dive. The pullout altitude was usualy 1,000, to 1,500ft. as the altimeters of the day were less and less accurate the lower you flew. And beloww 100ft above sea level they were pretty much so useless.

That is why 617 Squadron used two small spot lights that created a figure eight pattern on the water to maintain the 60ft altitude above the water to use the skip bombs during the attacks on the dams in the Ruhr Valley.

Also, I've watched the multi engine planes turn like single engine fighters. Remember that there were no hydraulic assists in the surface controls. The Boeing B-17 had the first "servo" assistance in the flight controls, and the B-17 was restricted to a 70 degree maximum banking turn, as the controls would become too heavy to try to correct, and could result in a fatal crash. So the flight characteristics for these multi engined planes should be adjusted so the planes are more docile than single engined planes. Wider more gentle turns, and more of a level bombing approach, instead of "dive bombing".

Even the G4M Betty turns like a Zero/Zeke fighter, which is to tight. The average should be a 30 to 45 degree bank even for these twin engine bombers.

This is just an observation, but I don't know if the flight dynamics in the game allow for these adjustments.

Submarines don't try to kill you in Falcon. Thus, their speed means a whole lot less. It seems that if the aircraft in SH4 were moving at their proper speeds, you'd have a lot more reaction time. Which is "kind of a big deal".

PD