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ReallyDedPoet 03-10-07 05:41 PM
Yeah VIIC for me, nice stats on the IX though. Can't say the same for my sig.

Eagle Eye 03-10-07 06:56 PM
I love both boats!!! I must be some sort of FREAK!!!:D

It's easier to get away in a VII but I've made many successful raids on convoys in my IXB and IXC.

Mush Martin 03-10-07 06:58 PM
Size Matters.
 
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...rofileview.jpg
:hmm:

Mush Martin 03-10-07 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducimus
IXA: 8 cmissioned
IXB: 14 comissioned:
IXC: 54 comissioned
IXC/40: 87 comissioned
IXD: 30 comissioned


Thats, 193 type 9 uboats.

verses:
VIIA: 10 comissioned
VIIB: 24 comissioned
VIIC: 568 comissioned
VIIC/41: 91 comissoned

Thats 693 type 7 uboats.


Now if one were to look at the top scoring uboats:
http://uboat.net/ops/successful_boats.htm

13 out of 20 are type 9's. Thats over half of the top earners.

If one were to look at the top scoring patrols:
http://uboat.net/ops/top_patrols.htm
Only 3 out of 20 uboats were type7's, the rest are type 9's.

From this, coupled with the fact that type 9's did attack convoy's just like type 7's, and that as a class they achieved these tallies with FEWER ships of their type, says something about their overall effectiveness as a class.
Duce:rock:Duce:rock:Duce:rock:

ReallyDedPoet 03-10-07 10:04 PM
http://www.uboataces.com/uboat-type-vii.shtml

Some more interesting stuff:up: Still going with the VIIC:yep:

http://www.uboataces.com/images/type_viic.jpg

Captain Norman 03-10-07 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatty
  • Strategy, strategy, strategy. You must constantly be concerned about logistics; fuel consumption, speed, distance from base, etc.
  • This baby is slim and turns on a dime.
  • Real men do it in convoys!
  • Limited torpedos means you must really make your shots count. You also have to think carefully about which ships to shoot at.
  • It's the sexiest-looking of all the u-boats.
  • Less fuel means shorter patrols so we can be home in time for tea :D
Praise it brother! :D

JScones 03-10-07 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stabiz
:rotfl:OF COURSE the 9`s will be in the Top Patrols-lists! They carry double the torpedo amount, not much mystery in that. But if a VII takes two patrols in that time, and sinks half the tonnage in each, it would come out bad on that list, which yet again shows that numbers can be used to show whatever you want.
Yes, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 97% of all people know that.

ReallyDedPoet 03-10-07 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mush Martin
Keep " Barry Bonds " out of this:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Mush Martin 03-10-07 10:45 PM
Sharkbait that is the funniest thing you have ever said.:up:
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

ReallyDedPoet 03-10-07 11:35 PM
http://www.subart.net/by_the_pens.jpg

U-453 & U-507, the two sharing the same stage.

Ducimus 03-10-07 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JScones
Quote:
Originally Posted by stabiz
:rotfl:OF COURSE the 9`s will be in the Top Patrols-lists! They carry double the torpedo amount, not much mystery in that. But if a VII takes two patrols in that time, and sinks half the tonnage in each, it would come out bad on that list, which yet again shows that numbers can be used to show whatever you want.
Yes, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 97% of all people know that.
That usually goes for both sides of any argument. I usually won't pull out statistics unless someone else does it first.

Mush Martin 03-10-07 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JScones
Quote:
Originally Posted by stabiz
:rotfl:OF COURSE the 9`s will be in the Top Patrols-lists! They carry double the torpedo amount, not much mystery in that. But if a VII takes two patrols in that time, and sinks half the tonnage in each, it would come out bad on that list, which yet again shows that numbers can be used to show whatever you want.
Yes, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 97% of all people know that.
Well I will concede that much whats the saying.

There are Lies, There are Damn Lies and theres Statistics.

IRONxMortlock 03-11-07 05:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatty
  • Strategy, strategy, strategy. You must constantly be concerned about logistics; fuel consumption, speed, distance from base, etc.
  • This baby is slim and turns on a dime.
  • Real men do it in convoys!
  • Limited torpedos means you must really make your shots count. You also have to think carefully about which ships to shoot at.
  • It's the sexiest-looking of all the u-boats.
  • Less fuel means shorter patrols so we can be home in time for tea :D
If this is criteria you base it on then without a doubt, the Type IIs must take first place.

You can park a mini in more places than a double decker bus!;)
________
latin girl Cams

MarkQuinn 03-11-07 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mookiemookie
I don't really follow...Why is this a big benefit? If you're in a position where you need to be turning on a dime, something has gone wrong somewhere.
Nobody here can say something hasn't gone wrong at some point, or that something will never go wrong. So the additional maneuverability is a plus ... just in case you need it.

g8rk0k 03-11-07 01:34 PM
Type VII is much harder for the enemy to detect, to visibly spot or to ping with sonar. I have managed to crash dive when spotting a destroyer who has yet to detect me and quietly move out of his path without him ever knowing I was there. With a type IX I almost always have to play cat and mouse with him for an hour.

Plus it turns faster and it's easier to keep enemies aft of your boat and you don't have to worry about them constantly relocating you with sonar while you wallow about in a big clumsy boat.

Dives faster too.

Not worried about the torpedo load out as I can just go grab more and my boat is usually ready to go sooner anyway so even though your kills are spread upon seperate patrols your can still keep up with a type IX on a total kill basis, and you don't waste precious time traveling thousands of kilometers where there are plently of ships within a type VII's range to be found.


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