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03-09-07 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Yes, the poor ones are the cause of all the rich one's misery. How dare they...
I never said the rich were miserable because of their wealth. I was just pointing to the inflationary outcome of an increase in the minimum wage and how those it was meant to help will be the most hurt by the measure.

Either way its off topic.

Skybird 03-09-07 05:32 PM
And I hinted at that the rich always find a thousand questionable excuses why it is better for all if the poor stay poor. Your theories here and in the other thread, are queer, to say the least.

Skybird 03-09-07 05:42 PM
Small selection of material that is available on the web:

http://www.secondharvest.org/learn_a...king_poor.html

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According to the most recent survey on hunger and homelessness conducted by the United States Conference of Mayors, 40% of adults requesting emergency food assistance were employe (...) A report by the Annie E. Casey Foundation found that in 2002 more than 25% of working American families were classified as low-income, with incomes at 200% of the federal poverty level. This translates into more than 9.2 million families.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16760690.htm

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WASHINGTON - The percentage of poor Americans who are living in severe poverty has reached a 32-year high, millions of working Americans are falling closer to the poverty line and the gulf between the nation's "haves" and "have-nots" continues to widen.

A McClatchy Newspapers analysis of 2005 census figures, the latest available, found that nearly 16 million Americans are living in deep or severe poverty. A family of four with two children and an annual income of less than $9,903 - half the federal poverty line - was considered severely poor in 2005. So were individuals who made less than $5,080 a year.
The McClatchy analysis found that the number of severely poor Americans grew by 26 percent from 2000 to 2005. That's 56 percent faster than the overall poverty population grew in the same period.
http://www.realcities.com/multimedia...RTY-states.pdf

http://www.realcities.com/multimedia...TY-primer2.pdf

ASWnut101 03-09-07 05:46 PM
Sky, your "theories" and "facts" have practically derailled the thread. I only hope that you or waste gate could put this money stuff in another thread, before a mod gets mad and closes it down.:shifty:

03-09-07 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
Sky, your "theories" and "facts" have practically derailled the thread. I only hope that you or waste gate could put this money stuff in another thread, before a mod gets mad and closes it down.:shifty:
I agree. Skybird, please be so kind as to post here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107132

Wim Libaers 03-09-07 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by waste gate
Clinton 'did less for black people than other presidents'



http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
Is that a problem? Why would he have to do anything specifically for them? Is there some kind of requirement that a president should give special privileges to certain races?

03-09-07 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wim Libaers
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Clinton 'did less for black people than other presidents'



http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
Is that a problem? Why would he have to do anything specifically for them? Is there some kind of requirement that a president should give special privileges to certain races?
Only if you want to pander for their vote.

Skybird 03-09-07 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
Sky, your "theories" and "facts" have practically derailled the thread. I only hope that you or waste gate could put this money stuff in another thread, before a mod gets mad and closes it down.:shifty:
I am aware of that circumstance myself, but we have two threads at the same time that in their wider context are touching the same issue, so I had to make a decision where to post it.

03-09-07 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASWnut101
Sky, your "theories" and "facts" have practically derailled the thread. I only hope that you or waste gate could put this money stuff in another thread, before a mod gets mad and closes it down.:shifty:
I am aware of that circumstance myself, but we have two threads at the same time that in their wider context are touching the same issue, so I had to make a decision where to post it.
I guess if the context is wide enough we only need one thread. This one concerns William jefferson Clinton's image as the 'first black president' and how one of the black leaders thinks Mr. Clinton was not a friend to black people.

Your economic replies belong in: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107132

Thank you for your attention.

bradclark1 03-09-07 08:11 PM
So whats the point of this thread?
The piece said he's done less for blacks then other presidents and then you turn around and say he's pandering.:doh:
Hello:roll:

03-09-07 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
So whats the point of this thread?
The piece said he's done less for blacks then other presidents and then you turn around and say he's pandering.:doh:
Hello:roll:
The point is that blacks are waking up to the reality that liberals are not helping them. In fact their policies are holding them back socially, economically, and retarding their cultural development as citizens of the US.

Have I put a fine enough point on it for you?

bradclark1 03-09-07 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
So whats the point of this thread?
The piece said he's done less for blacks then other presidents and then you turn around and say he's pandering.:doh:
Hello:roll:
The point is that blacks are waking up to the reality that liberals are not helping them. In fact their policies are holding them back socially, economically, and retarding their cultural development as citizens of the US.

Have I put a fine enough point on it for you?
Make up your mind. First it's Clinton being a black president and now it's liberals undermining the black race.
You read a lot into that piece didn't you?

03-09-07 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradclark1
So whats the point of this thread?
The piece said he's done less for blacks then other presidents and then you turn around and say he's pandering.:doh:
Hello:roll:
The point is that blacks are waking up to the reality that liberals are not helping them. In fact their policies are holding them back socially, economically, and retarding their cultural development as citizens of the US.

Have I put a fine enough point on it for you?
Make up your mind. First it's Clinton being a black president and now it's liberals undermining the black race.
You read a lot into that piece didn't you?
I guess you wouldn't characterise Clinton as a liberal?

Tchocky 03-09-07 09:17 PM
This thread title is a pretty wild extrapolation from the source, there's a lot of context missing. Also, the label "first black president" was a reaction to his background, not a campaign "myth". (http://ontology.buffalo.edu./smith/c.../morrison.html)

Also, he seems to have a forward-thinking attitude on race - http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...7/b122950.html

I don't know what the hell this thread had turned into, though.

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The point is that blacks are waking up to the reality that liberals are not helping them. In fact their policies are holding them back socially, economically, and retarding their cultural development as citizens of the US.
Interesting, go on?

03-09-07 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tchocky
This thread title is a pretty wild extrapolation from the source, there's a lot of context missing. Also, the label "first black president" was a reaction to his background, not a campaign "myth". (http://ontology.buffalo.edu./smith/c.../morrison.html)

Also, he seems to have a forward-thinking attitude on race - http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...7/b122950.html

I don't know what the hell this thread had turned into, though.

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The point is that blacks are waking up to the reality that liberals are not helping them. In fact their policies are holding them back socially, economically, and retarding their cultural development as citizens of the US.
Interesting, go on?
When you leave the 'ruins of Europe' and be more forth coming as to your location and your interest in the answer I will give you more.


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