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JSLTIGER 03-02-07 09:27 PM

The biggest problem with the transformation packs is that they require a lot of additional RAM/CPU usage to run the programs putting up the facade. I know this, because I'm currently running a Vista-ish computer, which looks something like a cross between XP and Vista. However, I am running it off of the default XP GUI renderer, so there is no performance hit. I won't put up the image to save bandwith, but a link is offered below.

Link: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2...desktopdl8.jpg

Since the screenie was taken, I've experimented with a newer version that looks more like the real thing, and works well.

kiwi_2005 03-02-07 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSpector
Ok, this looks good but what does it do for PC performance?

Now if this emulator would allow for DX10 games and Graphic Cards, I'd be reall happy.

I guess if I should decided to upgrade the look of my system to VI$TA, this is the way to do it with out actually installing VI$TA.


Doesn't do anything for performance, its all for the looks and you can fool some of ya friends that u have vista :) WinXP becomes Vista in every way except the engine.

GSpector 03-02-07 10:32 PM

To quote the Beatles: Sounding better all the time.

Respenus 03-03-07 05:44 AM

Let's wait for KDE4, then Vista can go and hide in the sand and never return. Even now, there are programes that allow you to do similar thing in KDE, with KDE4, Aero will look something really, really small.

Chaotic42 03-03-07 07:58 PM

My Vista install took *maybe* 30 minutes and it's all been all gravy for me. Everything works, and it works wonderfully.

Then again, I didn't try to install Vista on a computer built with crappy parts.

Rilex 03-03-07 10:39 PM

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WinXP becomes Vista in every way except the engine.
That is impossible unless you have source code and hundreds of thousands of man hours. The UI is only a fraction of the changes.

I've done a few straight-from-DVD installs of Vista and quite a bit more from WDS, all have been pretty fast (under 45 minutes).

cobalt 03-04-07 01:19 AM

Vista will become a firm operating system soon. Its simply just too new. And by reading this article its pretty apparent that this guy has little computer knowledge and probably does not fully understand the problems and errors. His webcam software not working? hahaha

Linton 03-04-07 02:58 AM

Does anyone have the drivers to make my speed touch 330 modem vista capable?

kiwi_2005 03-04-07 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilex
Quote:

WinXP becomes Vista in every way except the engine.
That is impossible unless you have source code and hundreds of thousands of man hours. The UI is only a fraction of the changes.

I've done a few straight-from-DVD installs of Vista and quite a bit more from WDS, all have been pretty fast (under 45 minutes).

It was really a figure of speech, yes your right. What im saying is winxp looks like Vista with the Transformation pk but lacks the power of the vista engine. Like iceing on a cake thingy :)

GlobalExplorer 03-04-07 05:37 AM

I predict Vista will create a new rift because many people will take a second look at alternatives like Linux and be surprised by what they see.

Vista is mostly about eye candy and taking control away from the user. In that respect it will appeal to the same douchebags that are already happy using a Mac. Knowing what I know today about Vista, I think I want to head away from this stuff, though I am afraid my responsibility towards my customers means I will not be completely able to.

Considering MS market postion Vista cannot be a complete failure, but I would expect that not everyone will follow the logic "there is a new Windows so I have to upgrade".

By the way, a 3D desktop is available for Linux, too:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb7...007-3d-desktop

GE

Respenus 03-04-07 05:43 AM

KDE had eye candy for quite some time now, but like Vista, you needed a good rig to have it all working. That's why a lot of people like Ubuntu and other Gnome distros, as even low-end mashines can do the job.

No need to go to Vista, cause your XP machine can't handle it, go to Linux!

kiwi_2005 03-04-07 05:50 AM

only reason why i use windows OS is cause i find it easy to use :roll: For instance you install something throw in the cd click on setup.exe and away you go - as easy as pie really. But with linux and if i can remeber i think the last linux OS i had on was Mandrake 9 totally drove me insane when trying to install a simple app (setting up the internet was mind boggling) for the app i was looking for the setup.exe being a windows user their must be a setup.exe file and all i need to do is run it. Nope. Their was none i found out i had to do a few other things just to install a program - it was a pain.

Plus Linux is not really gamer friendly. Shes very stable better than windows and most website owners choose Linux over windows cause shes better in those areas. I was given SUSE 10 yet have not installed maybe one day i might do a dual boot. I like the look of Linux KDE styles.

GlobalExplorer 03-04-07 06:15 AM

Sure Linux is harder to use. But it can be learned. Of course many people never want to learn (of course I not mean you personally Kiwi_2005), and that's what Apple and Microsoft are building upon.

There will be more games for linux in the coming years, especially serious, independent stuff that should appeal to subsim users.


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