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I saw the Red Arrows back in 1993 or 1994 at KDEN (Denver Int'l) before the AD it opened. To be honest I wasn't very impressed. Yes, they flew well and made pretty colors out their back ends, but not outstanding.

The Red Arrows did have some stiff competion that day. A F/A-18 demo, a F-15 demo, a F-117 static display and B-2 fly over. A Canadian jet demo team, I forget their name, and the USAF Thunder Birds. I'd have prefered to see the USN Blue Angels but that was not to be.

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Originally Posted by Linton

Red Arrows or aN RN frigate,which would you choose?

Use them for recon or something. They're fast and agile enough. And whilst everyone's dazzled by the pretty smoke and the whoosh sounds, BAM! Tomahawk. :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Boris

But theres Wales and Cornwall... surely IQs are lower there

Why the need to country/county bash in this discussion mate?:roll: Anyway, voted.

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Originally Posted by Boris

But theres Wales and Cornwall... surely IQs are lower there

Would you like to explain why you think this?I could start mentioning that most australians are descendants of criminals but I will not sink to such a low level.

Just a stupid unfounded accusation based on no real knowledge at all :)

Plus I'm not descended from the criminals, so go right ahead

I got an e-mail earlier...from some guy called Tony Blair ;)

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Originally Posted by Tony Blair

Thank you for signing the petition on the No.10 website calling for the maintenance of the Red Arrows. It is a sign of the place they hold in the national affections that so many people have joined you in signing it - one of the highest numbers since the e-petition service began. That's why I wanted to reply personally. It's also why I am replying before the petition officially closes, in order to reassure people who are clearly concerned.
I am pleased to be able to give you good news. There are no plans to change the funding for the Red Arrows, let alone to disband them.
It is important, of course, that the MOD looks at the full range of its spending plans as part of its routine financial planning, to ensure that taxpayers' money is spent where our Armed Forces most need it. Obviously it is this review which prompted fears that the Red Arrows might be scrapped.
However, like you, the Government recognises just what an important role the Red Arrows play in our national life. As the world's premier aerobatic team, they have thrilled millions of spectators over many years. I was lucky enough to see their extraordinary skills myself only last year at the Farnborough Air Show.
More importantly, the Red Arrows have maintained public support for the Royal Air Force, encouraged recruitment, acted as ambassadors for Britain in the world and promoted British industry for many years. So I am pleased to assure you that this government fully intends to keep the Red Arrows flying.
Thank you for signing this petition, and I hope you get a chance to see the Red Arrows yourself soon.
Yours sincerely,
Tony Blair

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All sorted. :rock:

People are also forgetting that a large % of the Arrows operating cost is raised themselves through auctions and merchandise sales and the like. They arent 100% funded by the RAF.

Tony has been a busy boy then

I had the email too

:rotfl:

Still its good news the funding hasnt changed

"Funding Review" - It's heartening to see this forum's gift for hyperbole and overblown paranoia is still kicking against the invisible *****s. :-?

It's good to see the Arrows being kept. I remember watching them at Farnborough when i was 8, I'd spent all of the boat trip reading Biggles, so I was in the mood :)

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Still its good news the funding hasnt changed

....yet

It wont until the next election term anyway.

That email means a big fat zero. Tony Blair is stepping down and the odds look good for Gordon Brown, just wait till Labour wins the next general election as Mr Brown will be on a cost cutting exercise to rake back the money.

You have been warned.

Thanks STEED, we haven't heard this a thousand times.

It was a funding review. See how much goes in, and what you get for it. Everything gets a funding review, because it's taxpayers money.

Let's say the Arrows are heading 2 million over budget, and a funding review is instituted. you'd have exactly the same headline.

Of course this is all lies and spin from the PC Madness PR Machine that the nest of swine-vipers in Westminster spew out 24/7. Welcome to The Village.

The Red Arrows always comes up during a funding review like anything else and always gets through. oy am I getting fed up with people jumping on every headline and making it out to be bigger than it is.

It was the same with the news head line "RAF pilots asked to do suicide attacks" when really it was a hypothetical question asked during training in repsonse to a specific set of circumstances.