Although that was one of the more unrealistic parts. An Active AND Passive torpedo? Not too sure about that.

The MOST unrealistic part of the whole movie was when an AIRDROPPED torpedo was detonated by the crew on board the FFG Ruben James. :rotfl:

Cheers,
David

PS Unless of course Clancy wrote it, in which case it's probably true LOL...

You're not going to like the ATC mod, then. :D

Although if the seeker has both, I don't have any issues with being able to switch between them like you can with the ATC.

Ahh! Forgot that part already!:damn:

If the pinging rate is of one second, you're too soon to adopt ultimative measures like Eblow. I use to Eblow, together with course change, when the ping is 0.2-0.4 seconds frequency, and so far it did work.

About the countermeasures detonating torpedoes, I was the only dumb*** criticizing right after the game was released, never got a decent answer, nor from Sonalyst, either from the community.

i could expect, there's not only bubble buzzing CM's, but something more efficent, never implemented, able to detonate the fishes. But that is out of the public knowledge.

Yeah with Stock DW it is soooo easy to evade active torps using active CM's. I've played in a game where my opponent and myself traded over 25 torps - all hitting CM's. With Stock DW passives torpedo's are way more effective.

Cheers Nexus. I wasn't sure if the interval indicator went lower than 1, but we are on the same page. I often get a period of silence after rapid pinging which I guess means the torpedo is in its "terminal" phase or something. At the start of that silence is usually when I blow.

It was an Alfa. In the '80s the big scary Soviet attack submarine was the Alfa because it was faster and deeper diving (supposedly) than anything in the US. The thing was, it eventually became apparent that it didn't have that much an advantage at all, and maybe was at a disadvantage because it was acoustically not very stealthy. If you ask me, it's all tradeoffs, and whether speed was a good thing or not depended a lot on how you intended to employ the submarine. The real nail in the coffin for the Alfas was probably mechanical problems and the expense of maintaining their hulls.

Good memory yes an alfa. Its hull is made of titanium. I read it somewhere that once it went past right under a NATO sea exercise :arrgh!:at a depth so deep that nothing could touch it. but it was loud though. after that incident the US was determined to develop deep running torpedo which resulted in ADCAP Mk 48.

It is? Hmm got to review that movie again. It was quite a long time ago since i saw it.
Maybe Das Boot indeed has got a decent modern-counterpart.

It seems like every 10 years or so the Navy comes out with it's newest "ultimate threat" submarine. My theory is that over at the Pentagon, there's an office where they get together around a conference table and pick out a "Submarine of the Decade" that will be the standard bogey man for all Congressional hearings on naval affairs, as well as the subject of all leaks to the Washington Times.

BOT - Eblow is an old chesnut and of limited use given depth limitations and frequent presence of hostile airdales.

There was a window of opportunity for in-game excessive corkscrew and other high-risk vertical and horizontal manoeuvres, often placing the sub in a dangerously unstable difficult control condition (torp kills you v implode). That window appears to have closed with the new very highly mobile, neo-vto, type torps. The Jurys out.

I thought "Crimson Tide" was pretty good and way underrated. Granted, mutiny on a nuke sub is hard to believe - but that's the point of the movie.

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Although a torp indeed detonates on CMs in that one, iirc. ;) Prolly you confused this scene with Red October.

It was okay. I thought that the movie undercut it's own thesis at one point.

I keep hoping that someone takes a bunch of events from Blind Man's Bluff and smooshes them into a movie. One of my ongoing frustrations, though, is that except for sea stories I hear from the old guys around the office, it's hard to find good Cold War era sub stories. I'm really not as interested in WWII submarines as I am in Cold War and present day events. They're quite different, so anything I can find about the topic I devour. I'm so tired of hearing the same things over and over again. Scorpion... Thresher... blah... in this sense Blind Man's Bluff is entirely unique.

Crimson tide is just a drama coincidentally placed on the sub. They are attacked only to loose their antenna. I don't like the movie much, but what more, I don't even consider it a sub movie.