I think the news media are on the wrong track on what's causing the problem, even the people in the street admit that the weather has changed in the last ten years, but the scientist blame it on a little hot spot in the Pacific Ocean called El Nino.

I say it goes deeper than that ... all the way to the core of the earth. I started reading Edgar Cayce books back in 1984 and one particular passage always intrested me ... Edgar Cayce said in one of his prophecies that the world's poles would change (this has happened before) and that strange weather would occur from this changing of the poles starting in 1997.

In 1997 California/Arizona had one of it's most rainey seasons it has ever had and the weather just keeps on changing.

Here's an article about the changing of the poles ... I'll go find a link and add it later, but it is worth considering and it will be very nasty for a lot of poor people, not to mention us above average modern electronic people. We still have about five years left by the way ... Not suppose to finish changing till 2012

Quote:

The Shifting of the Earth's Poles Has Begun, as predicted by Edgar Cayce in 1936 The reason this is of interest to us is that Edgar Cayce predicted that the beginning of the New Age would coincide with a pole shift. In this NOVA show, scientists explained: “2,000 miles beneath our feet is the Earth’s molten core. Here a vast ocean of liquid iron generates an invisible force, the Earth’s magnetic field. It’s what makes our compasses point north. But it does a lot more: it helps to keep the Earth a living planet. Our neighbors, Venus and Mars, have only weak magnetic fields, which means they’re unprotected from the deadly radiation sweeping through the solar system. The Earth, on the other hand, exists within a vast magnetic cocoon, a force-field that for billions of years has sheltered us on our journey through space.” But now scientists have made a startling discovery: it seems there’s a storm brewing deep within the Earth, a storm that is weakening our vital magnetic shield. Peter Olson at Johns Hopkins University explained that “the Earth’s magnetic field has been our protector for millennia, and now, it appears, it’s about to go away.” Cayce indicated that the pole shift would become apparent in 2000 to 2001. The NOVA show revealed that the shift has indeed begun in the South Atlantic Ocean region, between Africa and South America. Here the north-south polarity is fluctuating back and forth, weakening the shield against solar radiation. During the pole shift process, the planet’s electromagnetic shield will no longer channel the solar winds to our current poles, where few people live. The Northern and Southern lights are a result of radiation moving to the poles. Since radiation causes many problems, the weakening of the shield is a concern. A weak magnetic shield also means that the Northern and Southern lights will be seen all around the planet, even along the equator. It may be a beautiful, wondrous, visionary time for Earth but not a healthy time for many of its inhabitants.

http://www.edgarcayce.org/historycha...prophecies.asp

Here's the link, but don't go and join these people they are the new age greedy gurus you need to stay away from, but Edgar Cayce himself was a true prophet.

After I re-read the post I sound like Chicken Little, uh ... Don't be afraid of something we have no control over.

Human activity is negatively effecting the earths climate. This is being echoed time and again by some of the worlds most gifted scientists. Yet others feel the whole thing is a lie and dismiss it outright. I'm no expert or scientist, though from everthing I have witnessed and read on this topic, there's no doubt in my mind global warming is a very real crisis. I encourage everyone to open their mind to the possibilty and do your own research. Read reports from reputable sources from both sides of the issue and form your own opinion.

Here's a vision which could come true

Some time in the next hundred years powerful men will come forward with the solution which will be mass killing of selected areas of the human population and they will sell this idea as the only way forward.

I hope this never See's the light of day.

Where did you find that quote? You don't happen to have an old copy of the UNESCO Courier?

Guys
 

Dont Panic. it will all work out at the end.

Humanity on earth is analogous to a slime mould spore, and I dont mean this in a derogatory manner. but its our job to soil our bed, its all part of the natural mechanism.

in the case of a slime mould spore it lands on the rotting peach on the ground
and starts to colonize it.
as the colony starts it begins work on a spore tower and over the life of
the colony the spore tower is slowly constructed. during the first 80% of the colonies expansion and existence 80% of the peach and 80% of the membership of the colony is consumed building the first 20% of the spore tower
As the peach starts to run out of resources and the colony out of members
there is a flurry of exponentially increased activity and efficiency and during the last 20% of the colony and its resources existence the last 80% of the spore tower is completed. as the last resource and last of the colony membership is consumed.

Population pressure and resource crisis are the mechanisms that drive the evolution.

Mankind may like to think of themselves as individuals but the creature man on earth is indeed a single entity with base reflexes and instincts that are far more subtle than our ability to divine on an average day.

so dont panic simply put if it is observed data it is all a natural occurance.
and nature has been doing this much longer than we have.

MM

Now listen to this, we dont need the rain forest for our oxygen, (the surely help and clean the air) but 75% of our air is from........ ALGEE. the stuff in the ponds:ping: :huh: .

I personaly dont think it will kill us but we are affecting the enviro. As for the hurcains and late winter( I attribute this to Elnino) its just odd seasonol

Are you sure? Algee? Is that just a rumor? I've heard a lot of things in my short 62 years,
but I've never heard that 75% of our air comes from algee (the stuff in ponds). :o

I won't make you prove it, but where did you get this idea? :lol:

no this is fairly well documented
 

the majority of oxygen content in the atmosphere does get generated
by the photo synthesis of algae.

if the planet were two thirds land then it would be grass probably.
MM

Sir Richard Branson wants you to come up with the solution.


Branson offers $25m to save planet

Whereas the Norweigans are being a bit more realistic.

Personally I think that they should build another vault for animal embryos, and then perhaps large bomb shelters in each country. Won't do anything for Global Warming....but should help against large rocks.

Mush Morton
So in other words we are breathing slime ...

We weren't breathing slime (algee if you will) on my sub ...
the air came by taking in salt water that got distilled and turned into
fresh water then broken down with a two deck high oxgen generator
back in the machinery space into pure air and then recycled through
huge amounts of charcoal of which we had to load all the bags one time
with an all hands working party ... took a long time too.

No slime for me, no siree ... :lol:

The el nino effect is a natural phenomenon that's been happening for yonks. But it's strength and effect is being intensified and warped by global warming (which is why it's only become a media issue in recent years). Hence the hurricanes in the states, and the droughts back in Australia.
It's amazing what a few degrees change in ocean currents can do.

Or, have we only heard of el nino in recent years because a 24 hour news cycle has to be filled, and not because it has changed in yonks?

Global warming: natural cyclic phenomena or heavily augmented by manmade activities. I've been a skeptic of the latter, mainly because I feel the verdict is not in, and I know there is a propensity for some people to cry "end of the world". But Al Gore aside, evidence is firming up in favor of the impact greenhouse gasses have on the climate.

Feb. 9, 2007, 12:47AM
Exxon Mobil has no more doubts on warming
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4539329.html

Still, there are a lot of unanswered questions about what to do about it, and how willing people are to affect major changes in their lives. If the projections are correct that even if we completely stopped emitting greenhouse gases today global warming would not abate for 100 years. If we are going to do something effective, it will have to be sweeping and massive. So, are we ready for these changes? These changes will be more than outlawing gas guzzling SUVs and hot tubs in California. Government caps on electricity usage (1 hour a week on the Internet)? Forget owning a private auto, and yes, you will need to move your residence to walking or bike distance of your job. No more air conditioning (note to self, buy stock on screen door manufacturers). Yeah, I know what you're thinking, I'm being silly. Maybe… but will small changes in our lifestyles have any effect on global warming? :hmm:

I have a strong feeling even the greenest Chicken Littles will squeal when they have to give up many of the things we have come to see as normal. But, this may become a global necessity.

What about the hole in the ozone layer we used to hear so much about. I recently read, can't remember where but I'll look for it, that the colder the earth is the larger the hole and visa versa. Perhaps we will do more damage over all if we try to fix a non-existant problem. Wouldn't be the first time.