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Gizzmoe

01-19-07 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

El Al planes have since been equipped with countermeasure devices. Of course that makes some people unhappy. :shifty:

"Europe objects to El Al's anti-missile shield"??? Europe consists of 46 countries, and only one (Switzerland) has barred them so far... Are there any more European countries that have also actually barred them?

U-533

01-19-07 05:23 AM

Just pass the cost on to the consumer.

With enough defenses in place the Airlines would be safe ... but then again the consumer may not be able to afford to move his freight ... so one way or another the Terriost win.

oops I meant the consumer will not be able to afford to buy the frieght shipped ,,, either way same thing happens.

The Avon Lady

01-19-07 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

El Al planes have since been equipped with countermeasure devices. Of course that makes some people unhappy. :shifty:

The article states: "....and the German paper said more countries are expected to soon follow."

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Originally Posted by U-533

Just pass the cost on to the consumer.

Bleeding the West.

Gizzmoe

01-19-07 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

The article states: "....and the German paper said more countries are expected to soon follow."

Yeah, and the article is almost 10 months old, so have they followed already? Has Switzerland perhaps already took back their decision?

The Avon Lady

01-19-07 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

The article states: "....and the German paper said more countries are expected to soon follow."

Yeah, and the article is almost 10 months old, so have they followed already? Has Switzerland perhaps already took back their decision?

I have no idea either way. I'm sure there were quiet negotiations between Israel and various countries. What the results of such discussions are/were does not appear to be public information.

SUBMAN1

01-19-07 12:34 PM

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I found an isrealie airliner that got hit by a SAM too, but it also landed safely.

What case is this? There was one where AA missiles were fired at an Israeli airliner in Nairobi but they missed.

El Al planes have since been equipped with countermeasure devices. Of course that makes some people unhappy. :shifty:

Dunno - was looking for the picture of the SA-7 that hit the MD-80 and bumped into it. It was back like 25 years ago or something like that. Sorry I can't be of any more help - I did a quick search right now and came up empty handed. Of course, maybe it wasn't Isreali? I was clicking on everything so I could be mistaken.

-S

kurtz

01-19-07 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

I can't see airlines wanting to pay for this.

I'm sure it depends on where they are flying into. The first day that when one of these airliners actually gets shot down though, it will become mandatory I bet.

and which country would it be that's safe? Heathrow has been targeted by muslim and catholic terrorists I assume thta as america funds the IRA they have a few of their own I can't help thinking the only safe airports are in Israel.

The Avon Lady

01-20-07 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

I can't see airlines wanting to pay for this.

I'm sure it depends on where they are flying into. The first day that when one of these airliners actually gets shot down though, it will become mandatory I bet.

Actually, Israel's main airport, Ben Gurion, is in visual view from the hills of Samaria. Eilat's airstrip is within mortar distance of the nearby Jordanian border. Over a year ago, there was a Katyusha attack from Jordan, with one of the rockets hitting a street in Eilat, just slightly off target.

bookworm_020

01-21-07 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This one got hit recently, but I can't find my MD-80 pic. This plane in the picture turned around and landed safely too though.

I found an isrealie airliner that got hit by a SAM too, but it also landed safely.

Maybe SA-7's are just good for taking out helo's. They don't seem to work on bigger jets.

-S

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/meas...ry.plane.2.jpg

I think that was the DHL cargo plane that got hit when leaving Bagdad Airport. It managed to land (Just!) They managed to control the jet using just engines, as all hydrolics had been lost.

NASA, with the help of the US deparment of defence, developed software that could automaticly contol the aircraft using just the engines (Climb, dive and turn) a couple of years before the incident, but few airlines had taken up the software, as they saw it unessasary

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