HEHE you funny!!!! You only need two things in life, a good name and good education. All the other crap is just that, crap!:D

:roll: YSFNB

My understanding is that the passive hydrophones of surface warships weren't effective above 20 meters. If that's correct, then they wouldn't be degraded even in the midst of a scrambling convoy, as the sounds would be above 20 meters.

If that is correct, though, then that means they shouldn't easily pick up a U-boat if above 20 meters either. Whether that's accurately reflected in-game or not I don't know. I do know that, based on experience, I almost always can creep by escorts, even when they're within 400 meters, if I stay around 15 - 18 meters and move no faster than 2-4 knots . . . as long as they aren't actively seeking (i.e. ASDIC 'pinging') and haven't visually spotted me just prior to diving.

Active pinging your in trouble. I get by when they just listening. Once my torpedos hit the merchants, the pinging goes nuts....as it should be....and I suspect they could find you quite easily.

Yup. That was a point I was trying to make: differentiating between passive (hydrophonic) and active (ASDIC 'pinging') location and detection.

It should be far easier to creep by an escort merely passively listening versus actively seeking and pinging, and I've no problems with having an escort pick my little minnow out of the milling swarm of convoy whales when that happens. Quite realistic I would think, after all.

Hesse, my thought exactly. So I do not see the concern of some that the DD are just to good. I really have do not believe they are too good. I have spent the last two days toying with three DD working over the convoy they are protecting. I'm calling all the shots as well. GWX TEAM, LEAVE THE DD ALONE.....I LOVE THEM JUST THE WAY THEY ARE:smug:

But!!!!!!!

They put a green port running light on my boat, and the starboard one is green too.

One slight point, the battleship in Wilhelmshaven indicated as Tirpitz is in fact Bismarck. The main difference between them is that, whilst they were in the same location, Bismarck had her cranes on the Foc'stle Deck and Tirpitz had hers on the Shelter Deck. Two other differences are that Bismarck had a silver funnel cap, Tirpitz a black one, and Bismarck had torpedo tubes mounted on the fo'cstle deck aft of the catapult whereas Tirpitz did not carry them.

Mind you, it did save the modders doing 2 ships, so I ain't complaining!

As far as the lights... each side of the boat mimics each other. So patterns are the same on both sides hence the green light on both side.

Yes, I believe it stopped having to create another entire ship:doh:

Uhhh, U mixed up wit the torp tubes Tirpitz carry torps not Bismarck.

That is quite correct sir :yep: 8x53.3cm I believe :up:

ah man. look at the green smiley next to da Topkick :yep: sez im havin fun with yall messin around

thanks for the education on the Bismark and Tirpitz ships.
I love their beauty...