I blame the Zionists. It's a Zionist conspiracy. They took over the Illuminati. It's a bunch of fat, rich Jews sitting around drinking Manishevitz and eating olives, trying to figure out how to gain more power. Without having to leave the protective confines of their beloved Zion because it is the center of all culture and affluence. (<---- Jewish parody)

Seriously, though. Putin is a strange one. On the one hand, you cannot just institute voting in a nation and call it a success. You have to to literate your population, increase productivity such that people have time to pay attention to politics, and then you have got to increase communication such that people find it profitable to discuss politics. China is going about it the right way. God knows I wish we had done things after World War II the way China is going about it. China has been preventing it's yellow-bellied cowards from breeding out of control, but giving people incentive to achieve and "own" property.

Putin wants a Venezula-like dictatorship, with the benefits of an anti-American niche. It's a "niche" that so many others are attempting to profit from, it's not going to be long before they are actively competing against one another.



So, the "Cold War" has ended, but Russia isn't anywhere near an ally.

So name a few things that Russia is ahead of the USA or allies? Maybe you will come up with a bigger list than what I have below: :D

1- Precision bombing(GBU, SB) = Russia behind
2- Night Vision technologies = Russia slightly behind
3- Engines (all areas) = Russia behind
4- Metal alloys = Russia behind
5- Fly by Wire(FBWS) = Russia behind
6- Electronic Combat(ECR) = Russia behind
7- Stealth technologies = Russia way behind
8- Avionics = Russia slightly behind
9- Laser technologies = Russia slightly behind
10- Smart Bullets = Russia way behind
11- Pure electronics = Russia behind
And the list goes on...

As far I am concerned, the above mentioned are very important and key elements in military superiority. Compared to Russia being ahead for the biggest Nuke, biggest rocket booster, chemical bombs, bigger guns and weird prototypes designed to impress but never hit production...

And in the real combat zone, they are still behind in the joint tactical information distribution systems method, which nowadays, it's all about that, they can't afford to modernize.

Without reverse engineering our technologies, Russia would simply not be where they are now.
In present days, that they would be in the 60's 70 or 80's, it doesn't matter; it's just a way to say they are behind. The point is they are behind in key elements fault of research, which they never had the money for it anyway without compromising the prosperity in all economical area, not only militarily.

Apart for a few big cities which are "fairly" up do date, Russia is still largely a farming country in which many people live in deplorable conditions. The US, GB, France, Germany, Italy and Japan hardly has what Russia has in terms of natural resources, yet they managed to advance well ahead of Russia in practically all areas, and that means militarily and well being of the people, both at the same time. :up:

Looking around for Kapitan's response to the above post...:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::arrgh!::arrgh!::o:o

Yes our intelligence have known for decades that australia are jealous of our sheep population! :arrgh!:

And of England's sushi! :doh:

Well I'll give you some of those but a couple I disagree with

AMetal Alloys, Russia incested a lot of time and effort in those areas, you don't build all titanium alloy subs without metal research which filters in other areas.

Air to Air missile technology where were NATO when Russia was fielding the AA-11 Archer and AA-10 Alamo long range active and passive A2A missile. Hmm Sparrow and Sidewinder.

Laser technologies I would say Russia is at the same leve, once again a lot of research was poured into this area. I remember watching a documentary on the USSR's star wars program including their research with X-ray lasers.

General rocket technology.

Besides the Russians are catching up.

I don't deny that the Russians stole much stuff, but you make it out as if they are incapable of innovating and creating technologies in their own right.

And Russia being a Farming country...eh? Poor, yes, bad conditions, yes but "few" up to date cities? How many would that be? Two three? I have seen many more than that during my travels there. In fact rather surprising how many up to date cities there are.

XabbaRus, I don't think Russia is incapable, I actually admire some of their stuff more than the rest. For example, apart for the Typhoon and Tornado, my favorite military aircrafts are mostly Russian, like the: Su-27, Su-30, Su-34, Su-35 and S-37, I would take them over the F-14 or F/A-18 anytime. And another thing too, I always preferred the Buran over the American space shuttle and admired their crazy idea of flying it from a distance, and I would take the Energiya booster over the USA's boosters anytime. I also always liked the AK's over the M-16 and many others things.

And if we speak outside of the military world, if we all remember, it was Fyodorov that truly brought to light the development of the eye laser surgery, the USA only took interest in the same way of doing ten years later.

And I have Russian blood too, so I have special love for Russia, I am adopted by Italians yes, but my real father is from Russia(moved to Hungary at young age, then Canada at the age of 16, and had me):D

BTW just to let you know that I am not an anti-Russian person, I just think the lack of money and bad ideology made that country sink to low levels...:-? Still I am proud of my heritage. :yep:

That's cool. It is just as you understand that you get alot of people poo pooing Russia out of hand.

I personally blame Brezhnev. Kruschev set up Akadem gorodok outside Novosibirsk to use his scientists to research many areas so as to boost the civilian economy. Brezhnev changed all that.

I agree with you about Buran. Closer to what I think the original US shuttle was supposed to have been.

I guess there's a Rusky in London that has been poisoned. Boy, I tell you what. There are a bunch of strange deaths surrounding Putin, kind of like all the ones that surround the Clintons.

The Red Mob is probably involved, either in everything or a majority. I don't know if Putin could maintan control if he didn't cooperate with them. I don't know enough, nor am I cleared for access to the information, about the issues involved with modern day Russia. Seeing how every surrounding region is fracturing along ethic lines, it's entirely probably that Putin is attempting to hold together as much of the country as possible in order to prevent a relapse of communism. And it's possible he is taking steps to retain his power.

I have more questions than answers. But at any rate, the poisoning of this London guy is highly suspicious.

Sounds like old KGB or FSB agents

Putin I don't have a problem with, some of the guys surrounding him I do.

I'm not entirely sure how much Putin pulls the strings. I also think he is sincere in that he wants Russia to be great again, however not in a confrontational way. As always with Russia you need to look behind the mirrors and read between the lines.

I beg to differ: Symposium: To Kill a Russian Journalist.

^^^ I read that one of is first duties when he was in the KGB, was "suppressing dissident activities in Leningrad."

I guess you just can't rid of old manners...j/K :D

The only news in the UK yesterday was the ex KGB officer who was allegedly poisoned in London. It must have been a very slow news day because Sky ran constant coverage on this all through Sunday evening. :damn:

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...060416667.html