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Konovalov 09-13-08 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman
Lewis is nowadays the faster driver on the track, his talent is superb and if someone deserves to be champion this year, that's him. But as a person, as a human being, he really is disgusting :down:

I agree entirely with your views on Hamilton as a driver and a person. :yep:

At the start of Q3 I predicted that Vettel would get pole position because I feel that he is a more talented driver than Heiki particularly in those wet conditions where car disparity is cancelled out somewhat. Happy also for my man Webber to take P3. :up:

Konovalov 09-13-08 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kranz
"LH had his car set to a dry track-that's why he was 15th today"

I will LMAO if BBC forecast is true for tomorrow.

The main reason Hamilton is where he is is due to the poor tyre choice and timing in getting out on track which was made by him and his engineer. Makes it all very interesting for raceday.:up:

XabbaRus 09-13-08 01:20 PM

Well if LH keeps his head and it is a wet track and they are predicting bamp/wet conditions all he has to do is get a good start keep in touch with the Ferraris and wait for them to drop off the track. Massa can't drive in the wet and KR though I'[m not sure about his wet weather skills is let down by the car.

Jimbuna 09-13-08 01:23 PM

This has all the makings of an excellent race....weather depending :up:

Kapt Z 09-13-08 01:42 PM

It was great to see the whole Torro Rosso team going beserk! You would think they had won the race!

The wife and I got quite a laugh when they tapped into Vettel's radio and all you heard was ecstatic screaming. Good for him.

If nothing else, that first turn will be interesting.

XabbaRus 09-13-08 02:40 PM

If it is a wet race I predict carnage on the first corner.

STEED 09-13-08 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
If it is a wet race I predict carnage on the first corner.

Like this.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pakodbFxnxE

Konovalov 09-13-08 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Well if LH keeps his head and it is a wet track and they are predicting bamp/wet conditions all he has to do is get a good start keep in touch with the Ferraris and wait for them to drop off the track. Massa can't drive in the wet and KR though I'[m not sure about his wet weather skills is let down by the car.

Problem for Lewis is that if it is very wet race at the start tomorrow the last thing you want is to be stuck in the mid field and caught up in someone elses accident. It's a bit different at the front of the grid where it is less likely to happen. If it is wet at the start like todays GP2 race then there is definately going to be some mid-field chaos going into the turn one right and left chicane. So along with a lot of skill he is probably going to need some luck aswell.

Jimbuna 09-13-08 04:06 PM

Rush hour at Picaddilly Circus :lol:

stabiz 09-14-08 05:28 AM

Arg, woke up to early, the race is still a long time away.

Konovalov 09-14-08 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz
"LH had his car set to a dry track-that's why he was 15th today"

I will LMAO if BBC forecast is true for tomorrow.

The main reason Hamilton is where he is is due to the poor tyre choice and timing in getting out on track which was made by him and his engineer. Makes it all very interesting for raceday.:up:

Having watched a replay of quali again this morning I have changed my opinion of the effort by Lewis in the Q2 session ever so slightly. I realised that Hamilton was lapping a lot slower than other cars on the same tyres in the last 5 minutes. Perhaps his setup contributed to this and/or maybe his confidence was down for whatever reason.

I think the forecast for today at Monza is some light rain. If so bad news for Ferrari and great news for Mclaren.

kranz 09-14-08 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
I think the forecast for today at Monza is some light rain. If so bad news for Ferrari and great news for Mclaren.

as far as I "know" Ferrari also had their cars set for dry track-at least one of them so...??

mcf1 09-14-08 11:03 AM

Wow! First the pole for Vettel and now a win, my congrats to him and to his team

Hitman 09-14-08 11:16 AM

Well, well, well......

A young proud guy in the top of the podium, the german hymn sounds first and then the italian....sounds familiar to me :D

AMAZING performance, what a huge star is coming :up: Heikki Kovalainen riding a McLaren didn't even come close.

And the most impressing things is not having broken Alonso's record, but the fact that Alonso achieved his first victory with a fast Renault and Vettel has done it with an ex-Minardi :o

Other than that, Hamilton repeats his usual score:

1) Best driver in the wet. My hat is in my hand to his driving skills, what can I say, he was simply the best.

2) Disgusting and bad taste comments with total lack of modesty like "Had it not been for the weather I would have won", plus dirty maneuvers against Glock and specially Webber, when he recovered his position.

Fortunately for him the title is awarded to the best driver, and not to the best person. Otherwise he would be last in the championship and with a huge difference :down:

What I find most disgusting in Hamilton is how un-english he is. Britians have done good and bad things in history, but if they have excelled in something that's in sportsmanship and gentlemanship when losing. Yes they have no mercy when winning in crushing superiority conditions (Which they usually seek) but in turn they know how to win desperate battles and how to lose with honor. Stuck in my mind are the examples of Graham Hill, Nigell Mansell, Damon Hill and many other drivers who have been the best when winning and when losing.

This idiot Hamilton isn't definately in that league. Shame for Britain, they deserved someone better.

Jimbuna 09-14-08 01:56 PM

Well done Vettel...very well deserved :up:

XabbaRus 09-14-08 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman
Other than that, Hamilton repeats his usual score:

1) Best driver in the wet. My hat is in my hand to his driving skills, what can I say, he was simply the best.

2) Disgusting and bad taste comments with total lack of modesty like "Had it not been for the weather I would have won", plus dirty maneuvers against Glock and specially Webber, when he recovered his position.

Fortunately for him the title is awarded to the best driver, and not to the best person. Otherwise he would be last in the championship and with a huge difference :down:

What I find most disgusting in Hamilton is how un-english he is. Britians have done good and bad things in history, but if they have excelled in something that's in sportsmanship and gentlemanship when losing. Yes they have no mercy when winning in crushing superiority conditions (Which they usually seek) but in turn they know how to win desperate battles and how to lose with honor. Stuck in my mind are the examples of Graham Hill, Nigell Mansell, Damon Hill and many other drivers who have been the best when winning and when losing.

This idiot Hamilton isn't definately in that league. Shame for Britain, they deserved someone better.

And that has been the problem with British sportsmen for a long time that has become ingrained in the British psyche. Losing is fine no worries. I'm quite grateful that we have someone fired up to win and that is what counts. Too much in the UK have we been proud of coming second. Tim Henman comes to mind. As for dirty moves, well that is racing. Everyone seems to forget that Senna and MS weren't the cleanest of drivers and they actually deliberately took other drivers out, Senna Prost Suzuka, MS with Hill in Australia and Villneuve at Silverstone I think. You get someone who will race and defend a position and it is criticised. Once upon a time in F! you could block and weave to stop someone getting by, now it is one move only to cover the racing line. Mansell was a star at that. It was something Indycar complained about when he went over there and used the same tactics.

Hands off to Vettel though. It is good to see new blood on the podium and regardless of the weather it was a great drive. I hope next year in the REd Bull we can see some great stuff beacuse it is a good car as shown by Webber, its a pity DC drives it like a pensioner on a Sunday, though in F1 terms he is.

Kapt Z 09-14-08 08:29 PM

Sometimes the gods smile at you.....

Great win for both SV and TR! Plenty of chances to choke for both and they kept their cool. BRAVO!! :D

antikristuseke 09-15-08 02:27 AM

Incredible drive by Vettel, the new king of rain.

HunterICX 09-15-08 04:41 AM

Great Race,
lots of action going on the track and a great Victory for Vettel and also a good 2nd and 3th place for Kovolainen and Kubica :up:

HunterICX

Dowly 09-15-08 12:29 PM

Haha, Hamilton is making lots of enemies among the racers. This time it's Alonso judging how LH cut infront of him after passing he passed Alonso and Glock said he'll push LH out of the track the next moment he gets to revenge the LH's push. :rotfl:


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