If Cameron wins then we have no choice...

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David Cameron has delivered a stark New Year message to British voters - warning the country faces "chaos"

I think he means if he gets back in in May maybe?

Terrible.
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We are in chaos as he withholds the truth and spouts lies. :hulk:

Take the test...

https://uk.isidewith.com/political-q...mpaign=q_uk_4t

My results, I didn't answer the extra questions.
Labour 65% :)
BNP 64% :o
Plaid Cymru 55% :huh:
Scottish Nationals 53% :huh:
UK Independence 52% :hmmm:
Green 52% :|\\
Conservative 30% :/\\!!
Liberal Democrats 21% :har:

85%British Nationals

81%Labour

74%UK Independence

66%Scottish Nationals

61%Conservatives

61%Liberal Democrats

^ Liberals come last again. :har:

That's see if BossMark gets them in last place.

BNP 64%

Labour 63%

Cons 62% :timeout: (I'm committing hara kiri, soon as I've posted this !)

UKIP 61%

SNP 58%

Libs 46% (Don't know what happened there lol)

Green 46%

Plaid Cymru 25%

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

BNP 81%

Labour 76%

SNP 68%

UKIP 68%

Tories 36%

Libdums 33%

Labour 70%

SNP 65%

BNP 59%

Green 58%

Plaid Cymru 58%

Liberal Democrats 57%

Conservatives 33%

UKIP 31%

I still detest Scottish Labour and everything they represent. So I'm not voting for them, period!

Mike.:hmph:

We will see how this new leader turns it around, if he can.
In my constituency Malcolm Bruce is stepping down, I think Alex Salmond wants to run for MP for it. Will be interesting to see how that goes. For the record I voted No, not because I don't believe that Scotland could be independent but that the numbers didn't add up vis a vis what the SNP and Yes were saying could be delivered. With oil dropping 50% in the past couple of months and me working in the oil industry things are a bit twitchy, but given they think the oil price could remain at this level for 18 months, it has shown that a hole has been busted in what the SNP were presenting as their budget under independence, they would have a massive hole to fill.

Though saying that in Scotland I think the SNP and the Greens will win the day, and although I don't agree with all their policies they could have a moderating effect if they get a decent number of seats in Westminster. SNP do appear to be more social minded than either of the main parties.

However although I don't like David Cameron, I don't subscribe either to rabid blaming everything on the Tories, and harking back to how Thatcher screwed everything up. It seems Labour and the unions did a good job of that in the 70s. But what I'm saying is that's in the past and I think it does no good to keep looking back and blaming others. But this is what British politics has become from both politicians and voters alike. Oh and can I say, that coming up with witty names - very droll.

Who'd think this would be so accurate?

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My thoughts exactly.:up:

The problem up here is the general political sentiment in the western side of the Central Belt. No offence intended to the people from there on the forum, but the apparently unquestioning faith in Socialism and the residual "Red Clydeside" tendency do the area no favours at all.

If you want to have a "Big State", fine, but you have to be able to pay for it. The catch is that in Scotland the middle class and very wealthy make up too small a proportion of the population to provide the taxation to support one. Nor can you rely on the oil industry to provide revenue as recent events have shown. If the SNP were going to be truthful, they should have said that Scotland would have to cut it's coat according to the cloth on hand. That means a smaller State Sector and they'll have to drive investment to build up a private sector that's way too small. Far to many people in Scotland work for the State. That can't be supported with the revenue stream that's currently available and I think the SNP knows it, hence the demands for the economic levers to be devolved. Finally, IMHO, the Barnett formula needs to replaced with a needs based system.

The big problem is that Socialism fundamentally doesn't work in practice. It can't overcome basic human nature and that's where it fails. I think more than a few of the SNP's new found supporters in Glasgow's housing projects are going to be very disappointed when they find out the party's not going to able to deliver the Socialist State they'd like.:hmmm:

Lastly, going back to the poll, what I'd like to see now is a fully federalised UK. That means full devolution for England, Scotland and Wales (Northern Ireland will depend on it's internal dynamics) all with equal powers with the House of Commons converted to become England's Parliament. The House of Lords should be abolished and replaced with a National Assembly with EQUAL representation for all four constituents, not based on population share, and all levels elected by proportional representation. Likewise there should be more devolution at a local level in each country, thus eliminating the over centralisation of power at Westminster, Cardiff and Edinburgh. Whilst we're at it, I think it's time for a written Constitution as well.

If the UK is to have any chance of surviving, things need to change, BIG TIME.

My 2p,

Mike.

The starting pistol has been fired, and first out the blocks Cameron!

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ALL TOGETHER NOW....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKqzayNo4Dk

No real surprises there:

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I suppose it depends how you define socialism. If how the Nordic nations have it then it seems to work pretty well if the statistics on quality of life are to be believed. If you mean how the left wind in Glasgow and other areas of Britain believe it should be then yes it is. Did you know MGR that of business/corporation taxes raised in Scotland for which Aberdeen/Aberdeenshire raise the most, half of what is raised here goes to Glasgow. How's that fair? I think the reason that more than 50% in Glasgow voted for independence is they did think that they'd get a socialist utopia where they'd continue to live on state handouts. I know that is a generalisation but not far from the truth. You can go back and forth for days as to why Glasgow's industry declined but the unions didn't want to modernise and thus we stopped being competitive. I'm not saying we couldn't build good quality ships, but when you can get the same quality for less in other shipyards and I'm not talking about Asian, but European yards then why go to the Clyde.

We as a nation have become so hung up on what it means to be British, English, Scottish etc that we have lost our way.

No disagreement from me!:up: I'd rather more of the money raised in the North East stayed in the North East and was used to help communities here. Glasgow would be better off attempting to support itself, rather than relying on transfer payments from elsewhere. However, since Glasgow City Council has all the characteristics of the Soviet Politburo I can't see that happening anytime soon.

Mike.

The bloody road to hell if toffboy gets a majority:nope:

Bend over Dave, Angela Merkel is on her way to the UK.

SPANKY SPANKY.:har:

But not interested in meeting Ed apparently.