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Reminds me of people around here:

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SALINA, KS—Local man Scott Gentries told reporters Wednesday that his deliberately limited grasp of Islamic history and culture was still more than sufficient to shape his views of the entire Muslim world.

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"I almost gave in and listened to that guy defend Islam with words I didn't want to hear," Gentries said. "But then I remembered how much easier it is to live in a world of black-and-white in which I can assign the label of 'other' to someone and use him as a vessel for all my fears and insecurities."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man...ow-abou,17990/

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1481041)

Reminds me of people around here:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man...ow-abou,17990/

So we are to infer that this man is representative to all those that are in opposition to this location?

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1481044)

So we are to infer that this man is representative to all those that are in opposition to this location?

*whoosh*

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1481055)

*whoosh*

:D

Although I would say that many around here have far more than just a limited grasp...

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Well, that is what defines an idiot, amongst other criterions: he never listens, he is fully immune to learning, and he always thinks he knows it better.

A description of Skybird in a nutshell.

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And you still haven't shown how you're going to accomplish this tightrope walk without destroying everything you claim to be protecting.

You simply missed the post, Sky explained it all with the help from his bestest buddy popper who read your questions.
Some might say that the post was never there and doesn't exist, but those are just the silly people who can't see things the same as Sky does, after all only a super intellectual is able to undestand like Sky does as he reads lot, he proves this by many amazing feats....like reciting laws thatnormal mere mortals think don't exist , magic treaties that ordinaryy people believe were never written and events and happenings worldwide that all them regular folk just have no knowledge of because they foolishly believe Sky is just making it up again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQBrTROj2w

The eloquence - and if I'm being frank, catchiness - of this man's masterwork has persuaded me, at least.

:yeah:

Klick for video:
Stop the mosque from being build at Ground Zero

Bull's eye. :yeah:

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(...) any religion that endorses violence, is incapable to deliver spiritual enlightenment - how obvious does that have to be? And it has no right to even call itself a religion. without the shield of religion to hide behind, Islam would be banned in the civilised world as a political ideology of hate, and we have no obligation to make allowances for it anymore than we do for Nazism. It's a bigger threat to our freedom than Nazism ever was, yes: both are totalitarian, and both seperate the world unnecessarily into "us" and "them", the "pure" and the "impure", and both make no secret of their desire to exterminate the Jews. But we roll more or less on the same side against the Nazis, whereas the Islamo-Nazis have got plenty of friends amongst people in the West who ougth to know better. American politics is now regularly making the kind of dhimmi-noises about "diversity" as an excuse for Islamisation, the same kind of thing that we've become so depressively familiar with in europe. It's true that diversity has been good for America, it's been the making of that country, but American diversity has always been grounded in respect for the values, the individual liberties that make America what it is. Islam rejects those values, and that's the difference, and it's a very important difference. Islam despises what america is, it rejects everything america stands for - including freedom and diversity. And any Muslim denying that - is a liar.

the organisation behind this scheme is called the Cordoba Initiative, and the building is to be called Cordoba House. And this is because Cordoba is this city in southern Spain where Muslims built their first great mosque at the start of and as a symbol of their conquest of Spain. The Ground Zero mosque is intended to serve the same purpose in America. Building mosques on conquered sacred ground is standard practice, it's what Islam always has done to ascertain supremacy , and that is what's happening here. And of course they know how insulting it is, how offensive it is - are you kidding me? why do you think they chose a site as close as possible to Ground Zero - or do you think that that was just an accident? And they also know that once it's build it will be there forever, as a permanent affront to all Americans, gloating in triumph, and a major bridgehead for ongoing stealth jihad, that's how the Muslim world will see it, and that's how they will be encouraged to see it, and to be fair to them - that's exactly what it will be, confirming what they always suspected: that America is a soft country, a decadent country, crippled by political correctness, confused and guilt-ridden, with no backbone and no pride.

They plan to open it next year on 9/11, the 10th anniversary of the atrocity - is that tasteless enough for you...? I am surprised they haven't organised a 757-fly-past.

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Bull's eye

So that sad failed comedian is at it again.:yawn:

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1481023)

Of curse, the usual band of western idiots

That's sure going to win people to your side.

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hyperintellectual supermen.

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Well, that is what defines an idiot, amongst other criterions: he never listens, he is fully immune to learning, and he always thinks he knows it better.

But those are exactly the terms I would use to describe you. See the problem?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Old and trite saying, but true. And you're still talking down to everybody.

Another skipe88 alert.

"Everyone who against Ground zero mosque is a secret Israeli agent who never been in Germany :88)." Over and out :salute:

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Originally Posted by Dimitrius07 (Post 1481217)

Another skipe88 alert.

"Everyone who against Ground zero mosque is a secret Israeli agent who never been in Germany :88)." Over and out :salute:

You know this witch hunt you're on isn't making you or Israel any friends. I'm just sayin...

The enemy within

For you, Steve.

He doesn't say much I don't already agree with. But does that mean we need to change our laws so someone can't erect a building?

And you still haven't explained why I shouldn't fear you as much as I should fear them.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1481240)

The enemy within

For you, Steve.

"in every Western country Islamic extremists are allowed to exploit religious privilege for political ends by claiming to represent all muslims, and the media always treats them as if they do"

Every. Always. When this guy isn't lobbing himself softball questions ("people always ask me - why do you hate Muslims?"), he seems to be making odd generalisations like this.

"there is no debate, there is no common ground to find, there is (sic) no American-Islamic relations"

And that one. Which follows on his idea that every immigrant group to US/UK/Australia can do what they like, except if you happen to carry a koran.

Obviously there are American-Islamic relations. The pure factual nature of the "War on Terrorism" tells you that there is some sort of dialogue taking place. Say what you want about CAIR, personally I don't know too mbout it, there is place for an organisation with it's stated purpose.

"if you read only one book this year, or even in your entire life, make it Muslim Mafia"

What can I say, the guy knows how to market.

And of course, the book is ignored precisely because of it's very prescience. Which explains the massed ranks of Islamists in the US political machine, law enforcement bodies, and media.
Also, Dave Gaubatz, now there's a guy you don't want to be leaning on for facts. Crikey.

"in publishing this book the authors have done more for their country and the civilised word, than all the politicians on Capitol Hill, combined, will acheive in their entire careers"

Wow. I'm impressed.
You'd think they would at least give out free copies, or Pat would arrange something. Surely he can't let those of us too poor to buy go unenlightened?

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1481252)

I am more in defence of your freedom than you are yourself, Steve - while you are busy in defending "their" freedom to destroy it.

That's what it is coming down to. You will protest, you will object and say that I do not understand you. the point is: I understand perfectly how you tick on this issue. And that is why I see that it makes no sense how you tick, and thus there is no point in doing another round around the block with you.

There is nothing more I have to say on this issue. I will not do another repetition cycle, all from the start of it. The reason of my argument is clear since weeks, it was the first thing I adressed you with on that first occasion some weeks ago, you can still read it in my sig, and nowhere you have shown to invalidate it by reasonable argument - just days ago you even asked me instead why it is a tolerance-dilemma and why it is called the freedom-paradoxon. If you cannot even see that formal basis, not to mention the inner logic of the thought in it, then there is no basis established on which communication can be exchanged. Means: from here on, it is not a question of argument anymore, but a question of power.

You may see that again as me talking down to people or to you, and lecturing, and this, and that and whatever. But the truth is that I do refuse to give up elemental reason in order to meet those who lack elemental reason on that level of lacking reason. If that earns me the description of looking down on people, then I cannot help it - the accusation alone is no reason for me to abandon either reason - or freedom. To me, your opinion is one of the most dangeorus things the West currently has to deal with, causing an identity crisis that paralyses it and makes it unable and unwilling to defend itself against those wanting to see it fall.