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Deep Six 02-15-09 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theluckyone17
Heh. It looks funky.... 'cause it is funky :D

Yeah that's one funky LOW DRAFT design, what was it used for......Sailing up canals!!!:har::har:

Man any sort of wind/wave over 5 m/sec is gonna wash this boat for sure.....
Nice to know though that It's actually not a graphic/mesh error...

Deep Six

tater 02-15-09 11:23 PM

Looks like a bad place for those crates...

LukeFF 02-16-09 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep Six
Man any sort of wind/wave over 5 m/sec is gonna wash this boat for sure.....
Nice to know though that It's actually not a graphic/mesh error...

If I recall correctly, the boats of this class that the Dutch purchased were used in the Caribbean and in the seas around the Java coast, i.e., not on long-distance, inter-continental voyages.

BTW, here's a pic of the real thing, from one of the ONI manuals on Japanese shipping:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/Paula.jpg

AVGWarhawk 02-16-09 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tater
Looks like a bad place for those crates...

Not if there is someone in there you do not like:har:

I'm goin' down 02-16-09 07:56 PM

RFB with RSRDC
 
WHY CAN'T YOU BRILLIANT MODDERS MAKE A RFB WITH A BUILT IN SMALLER HAMILTION STOP WATCH AND SMALLER TOOLS? For these excellent programs to have a GIAGANTIC TOOL SET AND STOP WATCH on the MAP SCREEN reflect, in my opinion, and inability of some of the programs' decision makers to see the forest for the trees, as the GIAGANTIC TOOL SET AND STOP WATCH ARE EVER PRESNT ON THE MAP SCREEN. I know the someone of you probably likes the GIGANTIC TOOL SET AND STOP WATCH, but I DO NOT. I humbly remind you of the words from the enlightened philosper Groucho Marx, who said, after a man told him he was happily married and that his wife had bourne him eight children, "I like my wife, too, but I take my cigar out of my mouth once in awhile."

(Whew, I feel better now.)

Let's take care of business.

Supplemental note: Please refer to the threat I started re this matter, and particularly the responses to my similar post, located in the SH4 forum. The post is dated 02-16-2009 at 05:06 P.M. by I'm goin' down http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/lastpost.gif

I'm goin' down 02-16-09 10:34 PM

slide rule
 
I play SH4 1.5, with current RFB, current patch and hotfix, and current RSRDC. My mods are Hitmans in Game TSAC v. 2.1, and Gar combo fooskin fleet boat mod from Digital Trucker. I do not have a slide rule on the Map Screen. I used to have one. Has RFB dropped it from the program? I am reluctant to use mods with RFB because I do not want to screw up the game, but if a slide rule mod is avaialble and does not conflict I will activate it, unless it should appear in the mod I downloaded re RFB.

AGOSTINO 02-17-09 11:40 AM

Order of installation
 
This order of installation is corrected?? :shifty:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/847...fleetbovk4.jpg

Thanks in advance!! :salute:

Indy676 02-17-09 11:51 AM

Yes, I would say it is correct, because it is the same as my. If you dont go to the Indian Ocean you dont need RSRDC because RSRDC covers only the Pacific Theater.
Greets Indy

kriller2 02-20-09 02:45 PM

Hi LukeFF, you might want to read your RFB mail, there is something that might be of interest :salute:

swdw 02-20-09 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OlegM
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Originally Posted by Nephandus
I have the impression our friend Oleg here just indulges a bit in venting of steam.

Yes that is essentially correct.

I wasn't playing SH for couple months and I find out that in the meantime someone took Beery's perfectly usable medium sized realism mod and turned it into something.... well, into something else. Into a framerate-murdering monster mish-mash chaos, to put it shortly.

Blame me, I started the newer version but had to hand it off to LukeFF to run.

If you like Beery's version so much better, keep a 1.2 install on your machine and play it. You can use the 1.5 install with other mods and not have to worry about the new version of RFB slowing your machine down.

I'm goin' down 02-20-09 08:45 PM

Where is the PATCH dated 18 January 2009?
 
I cannot get to the patch from this link.
RFB 1.52 Patch (18 January 2009):
http://postdownload.filefront.com/13020034//bd3e93ab4b73bca7572d033dbe5ffba1c62f9fbad6d0adde8a 16286842abf172a4bded4a189937e2

I get to filefront, but it is not there. Help please.:hmmm:

Rockin Robbins 02-20-09 08:48 PM

It's our late great fearless leader, back from the dead! Or karate... whichever. Hey, this Oleg bully has been picking on us, can you beat him up?:O: I remember Beery's perfect version well. I would park under a DD, let him rain depth charges all over me and not get hurt. It was perfect! Let's not go back, OK?

Well, I have a two generation old Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe slot 939 motherboard, a so-so Opteron 175 processor, an ancient EVGA 7600GT graphics card, 2 megabytes of memory and a moldy partridge in a pear tree. My frame rate is no different in RFB, TMO and a couple of fps better in stock. All my movies are made in RFB. Judge for yourself if RFB kills frame rates. I'll bet Oleg's computer is no worse than mine. I'm very happy with my performance. DDs flip out over me.

I played TMO in desparation because Beery lost the vision and killed his mod. That's why I kicked Ducimus in the kiester so much when he started to do the same thing. When modders listen to crybabies, their mod jumps the shark. It's gotta be your mod your way. There really is no alternative. Nothing wrong with evaluating advice. But you make the decisions and don't make apologies.

The alternative is you get sand kicked in your eyes as you're groveling around trying to make everybody happy, nobody ends up happy, especially you and you quit the game, modding, life and everything and end up working the graveyard shift at a convenience store in Amarillo, Texas. You never do get the sand out of your eyes. :zzz: OK you can wake up now.

Moral of the story: it's your way or the Handy Way. Budda Boomp.

OlegM 02-20-09 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins
It's our late great fearless leader, back from the dead! Or karate... whichever. Hey, this Oleg bully has been picking on us, can you beat him up? I remember Beery's perfect version well. I would park under a DD, let him rain depth charges all over me and not get hurt. It was perfect! Let's not go back, OK?.

Ah here we go again....

Raining depth charges? Beery's RFB was about realism, and honestly Japanese ASW was pretty bad throughout the war, so from what I read on Pacific war I would say Japanese raining DCs blindly (most of their escorts didn't even have ASDIC), and US subs usually not getting hurt seems pretty realistic to me overall. If you wanted Japanese on steroids, ie making them much better than they were historically, for added challenge - you had (or have) TMO.

Back in the "good old days" Beery and Ducimus had pretty consistent visions of their mods. Beery = realism. Ducimus = added chalenge. Plus they both KNEW what to leave out of their mods, enviro crap, hi res skins etc (kudos to them).

Now, after their mods have changed hands several times it's just chaos, all sorts of cr4p shoe-horned into mods and, well, I don't like it at all.

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It's gotta be your mod your way. There really is no alternative. Nothing wrong with evaluating advice. But you make the decisions and don't make apologies.
I agree. That's why the BEST mods are almost always work of just one man. After the mod changes hands several times, and becomes a mess, too many thngs to too many people, it usually goes downhill. Sadly, RFB is just one of the mods with the described fate however the one I care about the most.

AVGWarhawk 02-20-09 09:44 PM

OlegM:
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I agree. That's why the BEST mods are almost always work of just one man. After the mod changes hands several times, and becomes a mess, too many thngs to too many people, it usually goes downhill. Sadly, RFB is just one of the mods with the described fate however the one I care about the most.
:timeout:

Seems to me RFB challenges your computer more than anything. Is this your discontent with RFB? If so, should others with faster machines not have available the most graphic intensive game they can get their hands on? How does so may people ruin it? Currently RFB is led by one person, LukeFF. The final decision to add or subtract is his only. It is his vision of how it should go in the final posting of the updates or patches. Trust that the fate of RFB is in good hands. :yep:

OlegM 02-20-09 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Seems to me RFB challenges your computer more than anything. Is this your discontent with RFB? If so, should others with faster machines not have available the most graphic intensive game they can get their hands on? How does so may people ruin it? Currently RFB is led by one person, LukeFF. The final decision to add or subtract is his only. It is his vision of how it should go in the final posting of the updates or patches. Trust that the fate of RFB is in good hands.

My computer is similar to swdw's above, but that's really a moot point as I said so many times before. I am computer freak, and I know how to optimize my machine for games. I run newer and more demanding games just fine. So when I say I am not pleased by the RFB performance due to enviro stuff, and it does slow my machine to levels **I** am not ready to accept, you can only take my word for that, as it's only my opinion.

And it is my opinion that enviro mods should be made optional.

"The finaly decision to add or subtract is his" - yeah and I would say he usually decides to add, never to subtract. I think Beery would have trouble recognizing his original mod after layers and layers of stuff (I almost said s..t :woot: ) others added to it, and swdw or LukeFF or god knows who "approved".

Perhaps he (Beery) would like what RFB is today, perhaps not.... I know I don't.


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