Nothing else was to be expected from this self-absorbed, self-important Schmock who has and never had any spine. I'm not at all surprised. I even predicted right this outcome of the election, and called it the German curse, Germany's doom, downfall, demise. That you would vote CDU, and get red-green left woke socialist policy again.

These monkeys of the former CDU crucify themselves on the firewall against the AfD. And Germany alongside with them.

This is not what the voiter clearly said he wanted last time. This is not it. Red-Green-left.-woke was chased away, it was vioted out. Was shown the middle finger. B'ut thnaks to the CDU mon keys that is what the votrers get again. Green-red left-woke policy making.


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[Tichys Einblicke] Friedrich Merz has abolished the debt brake. The Red-Greens have thus gotten what they wanted from him. Will the SPD continue to squeeze him in the coalition negotiations - or will they throw him away to form a left-wing minority government with the Greens?

Will Friedrich Merz fail before he has even started? If the coalition negotiations fail, he wants to resign. But in politics, if you talk about resigning, you will get resigned.

His political “friends” from the SPD and the Greens have no interest in backing him up. Quite the opposite: they are literally pushing him against the wall.

In the negotiations with the SPD, Merz has to give up every one of his election promises - and reaps nothing but contempt from the Social Democrats and his own voters.

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Hey CDU monkeys - grow yourself some balls, or even just one, for a start.

The CDU candidates that won their districtss, by vast majority are men, only a minority, a shrunken minority, are women. Nevertheless the CDU women now also give Merz fire and demand that they are being given 50% parity in public offices and seats.

As if there is no more serious problems than Quotenweibchen hijacking more than what is theirs. :doh:

The mental asylum named Germany - a monkey zoo. And it gets worse and worse and worse every year.

Sounds a bit like the LIEBOUR Party in the UK but this time based in the European mainland :o

Not really, this is common for collations they must come to an agreement to govern together so some get what others have to give into. If you say they lied because my vote argument is not in the deal, you do not understand why you vote in this kinda election system. One party rule is mostly not the case, we have not seen that for decade(s) in countries with this election system. Sky brings it a bit too dramatic fit for a Greek drama with a horrible end play, but this is the normal for more than 150 years in this kinda election systems

^Straight from the ideal text book. As usual, you block out everything that doesn't fit in with your concept.

Reality is something totally different. And you obviously do not know how Merz and the CDU curently get pulled over the table. And let it happen.


Lets count it: CDU:SPD:Greens 0:0:0.

Merz wanted a debt fond for defence (1:0:0), so did the SPD (1:1:0) but the SPD did not accept that without similiar debts being raised for non-defence issues and they got it (1:2:0).

The greens, not planned to be included in the coalition, did not let the needed change to the constitution pass without getting another 100 billion for climate policy: 1:2:1. They also insisted on that Julia Klöckner, who the CDU for strange reasons want as president of the Bundedstag, shall not introdcue herself to all party factions in the Bundestag, only to SPD and Greens, but not to the AfD as would be common habit. 1:2:2 The Greesn isniste dion tbis to make sure the frierwall agaunst the AfD, their guarantee for left government politics even in times they lose elections, does not falter.

The CDU so far has gotten practically nothing. All media report that there is plenty of frustration and anger, and ironically, the more the cDU gives, the more the sPD dispises them for giving up their principles so easily just to get the chancellor's seat, and the more the SPD pushes to get even more. The CDU's wanted changes to migration policy gets totally blocked by the SPD. 1:3:2. The CDU tax plans get completely blocked by the SPD. 1:4:2. The CDU promise to alter or abandon the so-called Heizungsgesetz, a very unpopular messy typically Green mess of a law that is the talk of the day over here, has been sacked to both the SPD's and the Green's delight. 1:5:3

Instead of a 500 billion defense fond based on new debts, Merz had to agree to over 1 trillion debts that, if ever being paid back, due to interests and credit service in the end cost around 2.58 trillion. All this is debts to bring the little Friedrich into the chancellors office. Man, that superman really must be worth his body's weight in pure gold, and then some more!

Now, the SPD and Greens alway wanted to end the debt brake, and wanted to make unlimited debts. They got their will, for that they needed the CDU to get a 2/3 majority in the Bundestag, to change the constitution. And they finally got what they always wanted. BTW, that project is through, irreversibly, cannot be taken back, the federal president has signed it into law yesterday. Because for Merz, to become chancellor no price is too high. And the SPD knows it, and she milks the CDU over it, and raises ever new demands, and rejects so far everything the CDU wants.

So far, the CDU has given away its resistence to making new debts, and thats all. The SPD so far gave nothing for that, and then Greens even also sit at the table although they are not even in the new government, if there would be a coalition.

Mind you, in the Bundestag election on February 23, 2025, the CDU/CSU and the AfD together received 49.4% of the votes cast. In seats, they have clearly more than 50% in the house. The CDU received 22.6% of the vote, the CSU 6.0% and the AfD 20.8%.

In the federal election on February 23, 2025, the SPD and the Greens achieved the following results: SPD: 16.4% of the second votes (2021: 25.7%). Greens (Alliance 90/The Greens): 11.6% of the second votes (2021: 14.7%). The CDU/CSU got more votes than Greens and SPD together. AfD became a strong Nr.2, and they have since then narrowed the gap to the CDU even further due to the desastrous negotiations by Merz with the SPD.

This corresponds to a loss of over 36% for the SPD and 21% for the Greens compared to the previous federal election. The FDP lost almost two thirds of its former vote and dropped out of the bundestag.

There is one big thing that separates CDU and AfD, and that is their stand on Russia in general and the Ukraine in special. Beyond that, there is no other party, including the FDP that has dropped out of the Bundestag, with which the CDU has as many similiarities and shared views on factual topics, like the AfD.

But the Greens lectured the CDU already again on to never ever think about leaving the firewall behind - for that firewall is the guarantee that SPD and Greens can dominate politics even if they dramatically lose elections. For the SPD the last election was so punishing like never before since the end of the 2nd world war.

But they behave as if they are winners...? Since Helmut Kohl the SPD had only in two elecitons more votes than the CDU, but in the same time it nevertheless was in five of six governments, only from 2009 to 2013 it was in opposition.

1998: In the 1998 Bundestag election, the SPD under Gerhard Schröder overtook the CDU/CSU under Helmut Kohl and, with 40.9% of the second votes, received more votes than the CDU/CSU (35.2%).

2002: In the 2002 Bundestag election, the SPD under Gerhard Schröder also received more votes than the CDU/CSU. The SPD achieved 38.5 %, while the CDU/CSU only achieved 30.1 %.

In terms of government participation:

1998 to 2005: under Gerhard Schröder, the SPD provided the Federal Chancellor and formed a red-green coalition with the Greens.

2005 to 2009: After the 2005 federal election, in which the SPD remained the strongest party despite losing votes, the SPD formed a grand coalition with the CDU/CSU, with Angela Merkel as Chancellor.

2009 to 2013: Following a defeat in the 2009 federal election, the SPD sat in opposition while the CDU/CSU governed with the FDP.

2013 to 2017: After the 2013 federal elections, the SPD once again entered into a grand coalition with the CDU/CSU under Angela Merkel.

2017 to 2021: The SPD also formed a grand coalition with the CDU/CSU after the 2017 federal election.

2021 to today: After the 2021 election, Olaf Scholz (SPD) became Federal Chancellor and the SPD formed a coalition with the Greens and the FDP.

That is not "democracy. That is betrayal of the voter.

And another thing, they dare to name the planned coalition now a "big coalition" again. The term "große Koalition" refers to the government of CDU and SPD under Brand 1969-1973. Both parties at that time together had around 88% of the votes, an overwhelming majority. What Merz now dares to call a planned "great coalition", has not even the majority of the votes, together CDU/CSU and SPD would have only 45% of the votes. Not even the majority!

Forget Germany. Its done and over. There is no escape from the red-green-woke-left tyranny.

I think many people overestimate the power of politicians, and underestimate how difficult to adjust a parliamentary democracy that has also enshrined itself in all kinds of treaties. ‘Why don't they just do X?’ Where X is then a minority opinion with a huge price tag and bans under the law, for example. If you think politicians are supreme, and then see them not doing something that seems like a good idea to you, you are quick to explain their inaction with incompetence, laziness or malice.

[Der Tagesspiegel] The AfD has narrowed its gap to the CDU/CSU to 3.5 percentage points in a recent Insa survey for “Bild”. In the survey, the second-placed AfD increased by one and a half percentage points to 23.5 percent and achieved the “highest value ever measured in the Insa opinion trend for the AfD”, the newspaper quotes the head of the opinion research institute, Hermann Binkert.

By contrast, the CDU/CSU, which remains in first place, lost two percentage points and fell to 27%. In November 2024, there were still 14 percentage points between the parties in the Insa Sunday trend. In the Bundestag election, there were eight percentage points between the parties.


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Friedrich Merz once started the party chairmanship with the promise to halve the AfD. Since then, it has more than doubled.:haha:

He ####ed it up, good and proper, by every trick in the book. In terms of negotiating tactics, he really did everything wrong that could possibly be done wrong.

I maintain that the CDU/CSU is not the election winner, but the election loser of the last federal election, because of its own desire and its own decision. Ein Deppenclub. A club of morons.

What remains is an applause-addicted overrated man with far too big a mouth, and the danger of even more bad compromises that will ruin Germany even faster.

Perhaps some people thought my disillusioned comments and warning expectations before the election were exaggerated.

No, they weren't, not a bit. in fact, it promises to become even worse than even I predicted.

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[Die Welt] Despite the easing of the debt brake, there are enormous gaps in the future federal government's financial planning for the coming years. According to calculations by the Federal Ministry of Finance, the shortfalls will add up to around 110 billion euros by 2029. According to Der Spiegel, this is based on a paper prepared by the Ministry of Finance for the coalition negotiations. The situation is still most favorable for the current year. According to the paper, the CDU/CSU and SPD negotiators would not have to make any additional savings for 2025, as a number of expenses for which money was already available can be financed with new loans following the amendment to the debt brake. The rest will come from a reserve.

In 2026, however, there would be a shortfall of just over 20 billion euros, in 2027 and 2028 it would be closer to 30 billion euros and in 2029 even more at just under 35 billion euros. Considerable savings or revenue improvements would therefore be necessary to bring the federal budget back into balance. New projects planned by the future coalition partners have not even been taken into account. According to calculations by experts in the future coalition, the funds required for this would add up to almost 500 billion euros. The negotiating group for the coalition talks would therefore have to find around 600 billion euros over the next four years in order to fulfill all the wishes. Plans for energy-efficient building refurbishment, social housing and income tax relief would be particularly expensive.

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A nightmare. Driven by narcissism, socialist ideology, and EU insanity. And this typical German habit to always wanting to not just fulfill already mad EU demands, but to even exceed them, and being early, and being in excessive overfulfillment.



We can't keep this up for another 20 years. Everything will blow up in our faces before then. Total collapse. Total expropriation. Total tyranny.



Most of those 1 trillion in new debt, will be wasted to ifnlation and bureaucracy. In the end, these 1 trillion wil cost around 2.5 trillion, if considering interest and credit service cost. Thats as much as there are already now total state debts, the new debts added not neven counted. :k_confused:



They are all brain sick.

Germany will get a new public holiday if the negotiating SPD and CDU coalition partners have their way. March 15 is to become a day of celebration, commemoration and action against Islamophobia in German society. [NZZ]

It makes you want to vomit twice - once in the face of the SPD and once in the face of the CDU.

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The longer I watch the Germans, the more I understand that Nero was right. From some point on it gets so hopeless that all what is left to do is to set it all ablaze and burn everything down.

Friedrich Merz harvests the fruits of his efforts. His CDU party now is just one percent ahead of the AfD, according to polls published today.

Merkel started the destruction of the CDU. Merz will complete it. After this, a different, formely conservative party named CDU will practically have seized to exist. There will be just one unified left block of parties like in the GDR 'Volkskammer" that all echoed the lead of the SED, and the AfD.


Even if the party basis revolts and kicks Merz out, the damage will be done anyway: Merz gave the Reds and Greesn what they always wanted: the de facto end of the debts brake. Thats will they wnated form him, and he gave it tot hen - for NOTHING.



What a big load of nothingness he is.

When you look at the outcome, we could re-erect the wall. Former DDR and Bavaria form the new "east". Musk would be happy, one more step.

^ https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=2586

Last national election:

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In Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Wuerttemberg, the AfD came a strong second, and in two other states it came third, but with such a small gap to the runner-up that it was almost a shared 2nd-3rd place. Its not just Bavaria in the West. And most important: both SPD and CDU work hard to make the AfD ever stronger.

Didn't knew there were so many neonazist in Germany-Well since people here on this forum and among some friend on FB, are calling AfD. a nazi party, this must mean those who vote on this party is either neonazist or supporting them-There isn't any voters who is tired of how the society have turned into-No there isn't, they are all neonazist.

I say what a load of bollocks maybe 3-5 % is either active member or supporting nazisme among the AfD. voters.

Markus

Most mentioning assumes or implies that around 20% of AfD functionaries are more or less Nazis, but of AfD voters it is even less, on national average. Which means there are hotspots where it may be significantly more than just 20%, namely in the East.


Still, in city councils and on low district levels there are talks and cooperations between AfD people and politicians of CDU, SPD, who admit that there are some people with whom they can talk, work and negotiate reasonably and who are not ideologically blocked.


Its an exaggeration to claim that all AfD is Nazi. That simply never was and still is not true. Its an overkill "argument" to demonise a political rival who certainly is not green-red-woke-left.



Do i want to say by this that they are harmless if brought into a coalition? No, I say: lets find out. Nobody ever took the time to take them to the test.
Either they will disenchant themselves and everyone who knew it beforehand was right - or an alternative to the left-red-green gurgling and mumbling will open up. No other party, not even the FDP, has as much overlap with the CDU on so many issues as the AfD. And these CDU fools refuse to take advantage of this and instead allow themselves to be led to the slaughter by the Socialists. Bloody pack of idiots.Mind you, CDU/CSU got more votes than Greens and SPD together. CDU/CSU and AfD would have a comfortable absolute majority. Over ten million people voted AfD last tome, but the CDU says these voters mean nothing, they voted "wrong". Well, Merkel was the first who demanded that elections and votes that she did not like had to be "corrected", in her words...




The biggest problem I have with the AfD is their stand towards Russia and NATO and Trump. Tjhis is the litmus test. But then, there are people and even minister presidents of the CDU who also want to warm ties with Russia and want russian gas again. For some strange reason , these CDI politicians, high ranking sometimes, do not take the same Flak fire for their comments like their equivalents from the AfD.



We desperately must try out how far the AfD is willing to adapt and accept compromises to any coalition negotiation, or not. Maybe, possibly they will ruin it all, easily, I give that failure a chance of lets say 60%. But what is about the other 40% then? We must at least put them to the test ONCE. At least once.



The alternative is the left red green woke bullsh!t that there is now, an ideological nightmare and left-extreme attitude terror that is suffocating and destroying everything and everybody in Germany since 20 years, destroys all freedom of speech and mind and thinking, and criminalises all criticism of ultralleft policies and ultra-woke insanity and Islamisation und infinite mass migration and Green Deal madness and economic self destruction, and that even the CDU has surrendered to. There is no conservative or even just a centrist party in the Bundestag anymore, they all have moved extremely far left, including CDU and FDP. And I do not prefer that one bit over the AfD or openly confessing Nazis. Nazis, socialists, its all the same bad breed to me. I do not ally with the one against the other. I hate them both.

[Die Welt] President of the German Reservists' Association calls for a "mass army" of one million soldiers

According to the German Reservists' Association, there are far too few soldiers serving in the Bundeswehr to deter Russia. Association President Patrick Sensburg calls for a reserve of one million. Instead of focusing on quality, the focus should be on quantity.

The President of the German Reservists' Association, Patrick Sensburg (CDU), calls for an increase in the number of reservists to one million. "To defend Germany across the country, we would need 300,000 to 350,000 soldiers," Sensburg told the portal "t-online." "The number of reservists would have to be tripled, so around one million," Sensburg said. "We need a mass army to survive a potential war."

Sensburg referred to NATO calculations according to which 5,000 soldiers could die every day in a potential war on the eastern flank. "In the Bundeswehr, that would be the active troops. Then come reservists, if there are any," said Sensburg. "As a soldier in the active troops, I would feel bad if there were no reservists nearby. Because if I assume 5,000 dead and no one else comes after that, I can calculate how long it will take until the front collapses. And if no one else comes, my sacrifice will have been in vain."

There are currently around 180,000 soldiers serving in the Bundeswehr; according to Sensburg, the reserve includes 40,000 soldiers who regularly participate in exercises. The Bundeswehr itself estimates the need at 60,000 soldiers. However, Sensburg said the Bundeswehr cannot currently approach up to 900,000 former soldiers, including 100,000 Afghanistan veterans, for data protection reasons.

The CDU politician criticized Defense Minister Boris Pistorius (SPD), whose military service model calls for 5,000 volunteers in the first year. This is a "far too small number." In 1991, 300,000 soldiers trained 200,000 conscripts, Sensburg said.

The Bundeswehr needs additional soldiers, who would be almost impossible to recruit without military service. The CDU/CSU now wants speed and rapid results. Patrick Sensburg, chairman of the German Reservists' Association, believes it is appropriate for conscription to be equal for men and women.

Sensburg rejected the idea that there is no longer enough space in the barracks. "I was an only child, and I would have preferred a private room with a butler," Sensburg said. "But I had to share a room with eight men; in retrospect, that wasn't bad at all. These are all solvable problems if you really want to."

The personnel shortage is the Bundeswehr's biggest problem, Sensburg said. "But politicians continue to turn a blind eye because they're afraid of the voters. They should tell the public the truth and say: Without conscription, we will fail to achieve our self-imposed goals and lose a war."

The reserve colonel also criticized the Bundeswehr's personnel policy. Letters from interested individuals who want to join the military but are turned down are piling up. "I know people who registered at Bundeswehr career centers to become reservists, but were sent home because they were told they weren't needed." The biggest problem is a lack of established positions.

Sensburg explained that the Bundeswehr continues to experience shortages of equipment and ammunition. "Two weeks ago, we wanted to go out with a unit to practice urban and urban warfare. But the soldiers didn't have enough G36 rifles, so they used so-called blue guns, which offer only limited training," Sensburg said.

He called for an end to high-tech armament projects and a return to mass production. "Simplicity prevails in war," Sensburg said. "The Kalashnikov is the most popular rifle in Ukraine, although the G36 is certainly better." Ammunition must also be stored in sufficient quantities to last for 30 days, as required by NATO.

Those who fail to credibly convey the Bundeswehr's sustainability because they only have three days' worth of ammunition or too few soldiers will not achieve a deterrent effect, Sensburg said. He appealed to the negotiators from the CDU, CSU, and SPD: "If the new government does not act quickly, it will endanger the security of this country.”