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Whereas if the UK leaves Europe then Europe sets the terms. The politicians are well aware of this, that is why Cameron keeps pledging to have a vote but not having one, and why even the Kippers leadership admit that their anti Europe stance is just empty rhetoric. |
People of Europe rise up and bring down that nest of vipers known as the EU. Rise up and break your chains or sit there and get beaten up by the EU.
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But if GB left EU then no real issue, as it has a separate currency, no land borders, and could trade with the US, Commonwealth, or Far East without EU. And if the French get all uppity then just ban the import of cheeses and wine :D, and buy more decent new world wines instead. Instead of paying vast a amount of money to subsidise EU, and then getting some back in a rebate (why not just pay less in the first place) they could spend the money on their own infrastructure. Less EU workers also means better soccer teams, which they really need to improve on. |
Soccer/Football I can certainly agree on :)
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The most important is how much debt you get saddled with. Westminster will decide how much of the UKs debt Holyrood has to pick up, Brussels will decide how much of the EUs debt Westminster has to pay. Glad you mentioned Utilities. Britain sold off most of hers for a pittance as part of an ideologicly driven excersize in asset stripping. Many of these are now owned by State and Semi-State companies in EU countries. How much do you think those countries will screw you in those business interests if you don't want to play their game anymore? |
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How are you going to pay the EU for their assets? After all they bought them so they own them, plus they bought them for knockdown bargain basement price, will they demand real market value if you want it back? Could be a very expensive business deal if they demand a fair price As for switching to nuclear to get rid of Russian gas. Your biggest gas imports are from Western Europe not Russia. That's Norway Holland and Belgium. Which sounds kinda EU doesn't it. As far as Nuclear goes .The French State owned EDF is doing Hinkley isn't it? The next project in development is by the State owned Rosatom. So the plan is to switch from a 1-2% reliance in Russian gas from Gazprom and go for a 5% reliance on Russian nuclear from Rosatom. Plus if Scotland gets its independence it gets the bulk of your gas reserves . What guarantee is there that you can still import your currently domestic gas and they won't pipe it to Europe instead? Votes for independence and leaving trade blocs are all well and good, but the important question is "Then what?". The "then what?" should be fully answered and understood before people put their little X on the ballot slip. Not that that will make any difference. For example I still find people in Ireland complaining about measures they don't like, brought in by EU treaties which they willingly voted in favour of. All the information was available for them before the vote, they simply didn't bother and just voted in ignorance. |
Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26556047 One word....................................... Insulting |
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A national pay deal is one thing, a contractural pay scale is another thing. The independent body the government commissioned to deal with this didn't lump the two different things together so why should the government then lump the two different things together ...apart from the fact that they have a policy of trying to wreck the health service by any means possible. |
Trusting a bank during an economic crisis is like trusting a fart whilst having diarrhea.
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Battle lines are drawing now Tories & UKIP Vs Labour & Liberals on the EU.
Latest poll news I was told about another hung parliament with Labour and liberals. Speculate as much as you want the GE is not until next year and a lot can happen in the mean time. |
I see the Home Office has done a grand job at being a right royal heartless piece of crud.
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