You are absolutely correct every state will act, sometime harshly, to maintain uninterrupted continuity and stability. It could be said even in the freest of nations its a necessary evil if it wants to survive.


The more I read about this Navalny character he's just a ne'er-do-well, a 'zero' promoted to useful idiot. Western media is in high gear and working overtime turning him into a saint for revolution, freedom and democracy. Yet when Russia does like any other state would do. We cry foul?

Is it true Russian authorities suspended check-in and did Navalny not check-in as he was required too by law? If so, that would completely debunk the washington examiners article and this would be a case where media is attempting to shape public opinion. Which would lead to my next question, why?

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”- Karl Rove

"Vladimir Putin formalises Russia's withdrawal from Open Skies Treaty citing 'lack of progress'"

https://www.firstpost.com/world/vlad...s-9695171.html

"Trump pulled out of the pact last year, arguing that Russian violations made it untenable for Washington to remain a party, and the United States completed its withdrawal in November."

"Biden initially signalled his administration could reverse his predecessor Donald Trump's move to quit the accord, but then confirmed late last month that Washington will not revisit the decision."

Not good.

^ I think something good will come out from this action taken by both countries.

In a few years from now-They will meat and make a deal both like.

Markus

You think so?


To me allowing surveillance overflights is meaningless in the age of high definition spy satellites, we can see just as much from orbit. Better to keep their aircraft and whatever they might be carrying out of our airspace I think.

I was thinking the samething, technology has evolved beyond peoples wildest dreams when Open Skies was first suggested. Even the last ten years have seen methods and capabilities improve.

Arial photography is ancient tech. Good chance Russia or Ukraine would 'mistakenly' shoot them down like they do commercial airliners anyway, so why risk it?

You are all right technically, i just think of the general 'climate'.

The climate around Russia is in my opinion already kind of hot. Im thinking Russia may not permit flights over certain areas now, not because we might see something. But because there may be a good chance of some trigger happy unkown who fires a rocket at our surveillence plane with the intention of kick starting a major international incident or war. Thats my guess.

What type Markus? I love lamb or beef!! :up:

Oh dear :doh:

:oops: Once again I forgot to connect my brain before writing. The word I would have written was - meet


Markus

Not at all Markus....tell the mongrel to start posting in Danish. That should bring about a few laughs :)

Fixed.

Its a bit difficult to check in with Russian law enforcement when you are more dead than alive and fight for your life in a German hospital. To then insist on this being an issue of the patient breakign laws, is cynism of the kind you see a lot from the Chinese and Russian regime.

Not to mention that the whole case of insisting on law formalities while a regime abuses the law to supress unwanted thinking and opposition, is cynical.

It has become a Russian speciality to paint opposition activists as Nazis. I wonder whether Nawalny really is that - or if I fell for just another constructed fairy tale when some weeks ago I said I see him as right that. We have seen this tactic at work in belarus recently, haven'T we.

In the face of injustice and totalitarian power abuse like with the Russian regime, disobeying the law not only is ethically and morally allowed, even imperative - it may even be a thing of mere physical survival. One can even argue that disobedience towards laws defending dictatorship is a civil and civilized duty.

:):salute: