Ex-pats are bloody lucky they are not in the UK.

I can arrange that.

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Why or should I say how ??

Maybe some of the English members here could give my an answer to why the Tories won despite otherwise in gallups or how they managed to win ?

Markus

Getting lazyboy chair and bag of crisps now. Let the show begin.:/\\k:

Simple - the Pollsters cocked up and they don't know why. The only bit they got remotely right was the forecast for Scotland and they didn't believe what they were seeing!

Mike.:03:

I watched a bit of the coverage on the BBC. They sure do love their(BBC) computer graphics. :haha: They had a computer graphic for everything.

Pretty much this, they are holding an internal investigation into how they got it so wrong. Apparently there was a telephone poll shortly before the election which put the Tories ahead a fair bit, but it was discounted as erroneous because it didn't tally with what the other polls were saying.

As to why the Conservatives did so well...I have no real idea. It's not as if their campaign was significantly better than Labours. Perhaps it was the scaremongering of a Labour/SNP alliance which put so many people into the Tories pockets, the Murdoch media were pretty good at that.
I must admit I don't understand how people could vote for a party that has promised to cut £12bn off the already heavily cut welfare budget, which is going to mean more suicides, more food banks, and more misery for hundreds of thousands of Britains. I don't understand how people could vote for a party which will cut the poor while protecting the rich, just because the poor are easy targets. As many people and media outlets are putting it, we are turkeys that have just voted for Christmas. :dead:
Well, I hope that they don't cut the police budget any more, because I have a feeling we're going to be seeing more riots in the near future.

They've got to do something with the CGI department while Doctor Who isn't on. :03:

I can tell you it have been on the Danish and the Swedish news al day long. I have seen this and this "expert" try to explain or trying to come up with evasions due to "I-know-how-it-going-to-end-explanation" just the day before.

Markus

Lambs to the slaughter, spot Oberon, The media along with the Tories rammed home the message the Scots are coming and they will piss on us English. This put fear in the minds of many people that's why they turned on the LibDems to insure the Tories would rule the roost without interference from a coalition partner.

As I said some where Ed Milliband walked straight into the Tory trap making him say time and time again no deal with the SNP. Result second attack can you believe Labour look at the economic mess when they left office in 2010 and the sheep voters bought it. These fools forget there was a global banking crises which in most part caused our mess.

Too many people in the UK just will not wake up and see the the writing on the wall. Mark my words the bloody Tories will bang on again about the last Labour government in 2020 and percentage of the voters will nod their heads yes we must not forget, excuse me by then the Tories would have been in power for 10 years!

I doubt the Tories will get through in 2020, at least Cameron is smart enough to know that the only Tory that managed three terms was Maggie and then her own party assassinated her.
We had 18 years of the Tories from '79 to '97, and that was a rarity, normally two terms is the limit, but it all depends on whether Labour and the Lib Dems will actually learn from this election or not. I mean everyone could see the collapse of the Lib Dems coming, I could have told you in 2011 that the Lib Dems as a party were finished in the next election. Clegg should have stood down earlier than today and let the party vote in a new untainted leader, and perhaps then they could have survived.
Of course, if Boris manages to be Mayor, MP AND candidate for PM then all bets are off, the British public seem to love BoJo, and whilst I can understand his charm, he's still an Etonian Tory with no idea about the other half of the spectrum of British life.

That is the elephant in the room, only Boris looks cool, gets down with the people, doesn't mind looking a fool slipping up in a river or stuck on a high wire but in the end he is still a Tory Etonian and people think he will remain the fluffy bunny Mayor rabbit if he takes the leadership of the Tory party. No way, out pops the lion to carry on the terror campaign.

Just listening on the radio the Tories got 24% and NOTA 34%. :o

None of the above is what people write on their ballot paper if they do not agree with or want to vote for the party's in their area. It shows they made the effort to visit their polling station to voice their protest unlike sitting on your arse which plays in the hands of the establishment.

I'm quite sanguine about it myself:yep: - having lived through Major's years with a slim majority and knowing how split the Cons are over Europe it will be fun to watch. Don't forget, the Cons have gone from a majority of about 40 seats down to 12.
The EU-Cons need that block of SNP to counter their own back-benchers who will revolt during the EU-ref bill. Look out for more concessions than expected to come to Scotland (in fact that's already started).
What I would really like to see is a change from the FPTP voting system: when you look at the 1 or 2 seats some parties got for millions of votes against the 8 or 9 for a few hundred thousand, something in seriously silly. :shifty:

Good morning everyone how you feeling? Ask me in five years time STEED. :haha:

Ok to the question, is it time we got rid of the FPTP and replaced it with PR?

From the radio last night..

SNP 1,454,436 votes giving them 56 seats

UKIP 3,881,129 votes giving them 1 seat

SNP poll less than UKIP and they get 55 seats more than UKIP. I know Oberon will not like this next bit, under PR UKIP would be on 82-84 seats.

Now the bit Oberon will like, even the greens would have got 9-14 seats.


Clearly smaller party's like UKIP and the Greens are picking up votes showing people are looking else where, seems to me a good case for PR.

Top Five votes
Conservatives 11,334,920
Labour 9,347,326
UKIP 3,881,129
Liberal Democrats 2,415,888
SNP 1,454,436
GREENS 1,157,613