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Reece 03-12-08 07:18 PM

Your mod is coming along very nicely, I might switch, mine sort of looks SH4ish!:lol:
You and others may agree here but although the SH4 sea is transparent it looks fake like a painting even with post processing off it still looks like it has a skin on the surface or something, I much prefer the SHIII sea!:up: If I keep editing & tweaking the SH4 Scene it might eventually turn into SHIII Scene!:rotfl:

Graf Paper 03-12-08 07:19 PM

You're doing fantastic work, OLC! :rock:

I still don't understand all this debate over ocean colors. This could be settled real quick by having a few of the ex-navy guys in the forum chime in about their own direct experience. The expression "deep blue sea" is such for a reason.

Having seen with my own eyes the Atlantic, Caribbean, and Gulf of Mexico I can support your assertion that deeper waters are indeed a deep blue while shallow waters tend to be tinted by the sea bottom, hence the more or less greenish to brownish tint but even shalllow waters look blue when viewed from a distance.

The Gulf of Mexico is so shallow that its waters tend to be very silty and colored brown to brownish green. Ugh.

Southern Atlantic and Caribbean waters tend to be very clear and pure even right up to the shore and the more or less white sandy bottom tends to color the waters less green.

I really can't stand the "green milk" color that many people seem to prefer for the Atlantic. It certainly isn't for realism's sake.

Marko_Ramius 03-12-08 07:50 PM

I really can't wait for this mod :up: Fantastic skills and inspiration on those forums !


Even if i'm not a "dark night" guy, i will certainly appreciate your work, OLC. Big thanks.




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it looks fake like a painting
I agree with you, Recce. A bit too much "cartoon" ..

Philipp_Thomsen 03-12-08 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
The ship turned out to be a German ship :roll:



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Dont you just hate when that happens?
A whole patrol without spotting a ship, and on the way back home, sink a german ship... :damn:
I'll download the video now... OLC, have you considering uploading it on youtube?

onelifecrisis 03-12-08 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
The ship turned out to be a German ship :roll:



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Dont you just hate when that happens?
I'll download the video now... OLC, have you considering uploading it on youtube?

YouTube's resolution is way too low. You won't be able to see anything. I've already halved the video to 512x384, and compressed it, to keep the file size low... and you can barely make it out at that level of detail. On youtube, you'd not be able to see anything at all. :-?

Philipp_Thomsen 03-12-08 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
The ship turned out to be a German ship :roll:



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Dont you just hate when that happens?
I'll download the video now... OLC, have you considering uploading it on youtube?

YouTube's resolution is way too low. You won't be able to see anything. I've already halved the video to 512x384, and compressed it, to keep the file size low... and you can barely make it out at that level of detail. On youtube, you'd not be able to see anything at all. :-?

Such a shame. So much faster to upload and download. I hate filefront, I pay a lot of cash for a 2mbps conection and here I am, downloading at 30kbps from filefront. 45 Minute download.:damn:

onelifecrisis 03-12-08 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko_Ramius
Even if i'm not a "dark night" guy, i will certainly appreciate your work, OLC.

I hope so, cos there's now a lot more to this mod than dark nights... its, er, grown. :lol:

Dynamic lighting, specular highlights - and of course the sea reflections - have all been improved here (if only marginally in the case of the first two). It's surprising how much of an impact on things the colour files have! As I discovered, they do more than just colour things ;)

Sailor Steve 03-12-08 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Graf Paper
I really can't stand the "green milk" color that many people seem to prefer for the Atlantic. It certainly isn't for realism's sake.

It's the Das Boot connection, and I've always thought the underwater color in the movie was awful. I agree, deep water is blue.

I disagree, however, about SH4. I can't actually look at it for real, but some of the ROW screenshots are frighteningly realistic and beautiful. At least to me.

Adriatico 03-13-08 02:17 AM

Good one, Reece :up:
:rotfl:

onelifecrisis 03-13-08 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece
Your mod is coming along very nicely, I might switch, mine sort of looks SH4ish!:lol:
You and others may agree here but although the SH4 sea is transparent it looks fake like a painting even with post processing off it still looks like it has a skin on the surface or something, I much prefer the SHIII sea!:up: If I keep editing & tweaking the SH4 Scene it might eventually turn into SHIII Scene!:rotfl:

Thanks mate and lol :lol:

ReallyDedPoet 03-13-08 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece
Your mod is coming along very nicely, I might switch, mine sort of looks SH4ish!:lol:
You and others may agree here but although the SH4 sea is transparent it looks fake like a painting even with post processing off it still looks like it has a skin on the surface or something

This is actually one of my favorite aspects of SH4, especially when you combine it with ROW :D But it is all about personal preference with the SH series, the work that is being done here is great lads, keep pushing the envelope with SH3 :yep:


RDP

Uber Gruber 03-13-08 08:12 AM

I agree Reece, SH4 looks too "comic book" for me. Even with the excellent ROW mod I still find the environment detracts from my immersion into the game. The SH3 graphics engine, although blocky, immerses me much more into the game. In short, I feel like i'm running a sub in WWII with SH3 whereas I find SH4 boring by comparison. I wish I could put my finger on it more precisely but its probably one of those "each to their own" taste things.

I might try SH4 again though, once there is an Atlantic U-Boat Campaign mod...untill then I'm sticking with SH3 and the excellent work done by the modders here.:up:

ReallyDedPoet 03-13-08 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Uber Gruber
I wish I could put my finger on it more precisely but its probably one of those "each to their own" taste things.

This is it I think Uber ^^^^, ROW combined with some of the larger mods has done it for me regarding SH4 :yep::D But I digress.... back on topic for me, as mentioned the work being done here in SH3 is top notch. Great stuff OLC :yep:


RDP

Hitman 03-13-08 08:33 AM

A bit of feedback here...tried the mod in the first post over GWX 2.0 and it worked well. The sea is improved and the effects look quite good. But my framerates fell a lot. I have a good and modern PC, P4 dual core 2.66, 2GB fast RAM and an Nvidia 8800GTS so I was getting around 80-100 fps before with GWX :rock: now it has fallen to about 20-25 in external views :hmm:

onelifecrisis 03-13-08 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman
A bit of feedback here...tried the mod in the first post over GWX 2.0 and it worked well. The sea is improved and the effects look quite good. But my framerates fell a lot. I have a good and modern PC, P4 dual core 2.66, 2GB fast RAM and an Nvidia 8800GTS so I was getting around 80-100 fps before with GWX :rock: now it has fallen to about 20-25 in external views :hmm:

You mean the alpha? That was just a POC mate - none of survived, the beta is a new mod ;)

You have a PM :)


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