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August 11-02-06 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Is there anyone even reading these rediculous cartoons? I'm just kind of curious. I didn't bother to read half way through the first one since its purely stereotypical hypocritcal hate garbage.

Sure it is stereotypical, so stereotypical as reality.
These dialogues happen every day in uncountable homes.

Uncountable because 0 adds up to nothing.

SUBMAN1 11-02-06 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Is there anyone even reading these rediculous cartoons? I'm just kind of curious. I didn't bother to read half way through the first one since its purely stereotypical hypocritcal hate garbage.

Sure it is stereotypical, so stereotypical as reality.
These dialogues happen every day in uncountable homes.

I think you're mistaken - I haven't seen it for it to be that prevalent! ANd that stil doesn't change the fact that this athiest agenda pushing far outpaces any religous radical or religious moderate agenda. Its nuts what I see here. Its like they have nothing better to do with all their energy than pick some group to blame all their problems on. Get a life already! To beleive in these people that write this garbage and to follow them is to be seriously messed up in the head. I guess people like this who have nothing else in life need something to cling to.

-S

VON_CAPO 11-02-06 03:25 PM

I think you & Co. are so pissed about the cartoons because you intimately recognize that is a real and sometimes weird face of your faith. :|\\

SUBMAN1 11-02-06 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
I think you & Co. are so pissed about the cartoons because you intimately recognize that is a real and sometimes weird face of your faith. :|\\

I wouldn't call it pissed at all. Bored with it might be a better word since non of them reflect reality, but instead reflect of one sided hate towards a group of people.

August 11-02-06 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I think you're mistaken - I haven't seen it for it to be that prevalent! ANd that stil doesn't change the fact that this athiest agenda pushing far outpaces any religous radical or religious moderate agenda. Its nuts what I see here. Its like they have nothing better to do with all their energy than pick some group to blame all their problems on. Get a life already! To beleive in these people that write this garbage and to follow them is to be seriously messed up in the head. I guess people like this who have nothing else in life need something to cling to.

-S

Spot on Subman.

VON_CAPO 11-02-06 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I wouldn't call it pissed at all. Bored with it might be a better word since non of them reflect reality, but instead reflect of one sided hate towards a group of people.

I gotta go, tomorrow 10:00 ET.

August 11-02-06 03:36 PM

Anyone else get the impression that this von Capo guy is trying way to hard?

SUBMAN1 11-02-06 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Anyone else get the impression that this von Capo guy is trying way to hard?

It almost feels built up in him over many years. It is probably healthy for him to get this out though.

-S

August 11-02-06 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by August
Anyone else get the impression that this von Capo guy is trying way to hard?

It almost feels built up in him over many years. It is probably healthy for him to get this out though.

-S

Maybe. I just hope that when he finally realizes that no one is taking his words as "gospel" he doesn't go off the deep end and do something bad. After all it isn't like he has the threat of eternal damnation to stop him.

Takeda Shingen 11-02-06 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
I think you & Co. are so pissed about the cartoons because you intimately recognize that is a real and sometimes weird face of your faith. :|\\

This is quickly running it's course. It may be wisest and most beneficial for everyone involved if you now stopped attacking said faith.

Dan san,

Tak (Dangling and jingling the playground keys)

Yahoshua 11-02-06 06:49 PM

Dan San?

VON_CAPO 11-03-06 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Its like they have nothing better to do with all their energy than pick some group to blame all their problems on. Get a life already! To beleive in these people that write this garbage and to follow them is to be seriously messed up in the head. I guess people like this who have nothing else in life need something to cling to.

Let me show you the panorama, because you & Co. are gravely stuck in an idea of hate against a particular group (in this case Christians).
If you really believe in this idea, I ensure you that is wrong.
But if you are proclaiming that, only to lure sympathy from others forum's members, shame on you.

About the panorama:
If you & Co. are so gentle to recall the beginning of this thread, it was about how christians institutions were infiltrating the government, and the threat that it represent for the minorities.
This was the intro or presentation.

The second step, it is about to explore the christian psyche
.
It is how interpretates and reacts in the real world.
It is why you people think in a very particular way.
It is about your faith and what fundament those beliefs.
It is too, how you people interact with the rest of us (you know, amoral, gays, atheists.... whatever you consider as the scum of society. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I choose pics and cartoons because a simple graphic scores thousands of words.
Additionally, your uproar, draws an interesting parallel with the Danish Mahomet cartoons. :yep:

This phase is almost complete.
And appreciate your collaboration.
Thank you.

SUBMAN1 11-03-06 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Its like they have nothing better to do with all their energy than pick some group to blame all their problems on. Get a life already! To beleive in these people that write this garbage and to follow them is to be seriously messed up in the head. I guess people like this who have nothing else in life need something to cling to.

Let me show you the panorama, because you & Co. are gravely stuck in an idea of hate against a particular group (in this case Christians).
If you really believe in this idea, I ensure you that is wrong.
But if you are proclaiming that, only to lure sympathy from others forum's members, shame on you.

About the panorama:
If you & Co. are so gentle to recall the beginning of this thread, it was about how christians institutions were infiltrating the government, and the threat that it represent for the minorities.
This was the intro or presentation.

The second step, it is about to explore the christian psyche
.
It is how interpretates and reacts in the real world.
It is why you people think in a very particular way.
It is about your faith and what fundament those beliefs.
It is too, how you people interact with the rest of us (you know, amoral, gays, atheists.... whatever you consider as the scum of society. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I choose pics and cartoons because a simple graphic scores thousands of words.
Additionally, your uproar, draws an interesting parallel with the Danish Mahomet cartoons. :yep:

This phase is almost complete.
And appreciate your collaboration.
Thank you.

:roll:

Are you trying to create another bump thread here or just need a soapbox since no one else will listen to you? I'm sorry that I didn't take the time to read you rentire post since its filled with the same old garbage. So what is this, the new bump thread?

-S

VON_CAPO 11-04-06 09:46 AM

Now a must read article: :yep::yep::yep:

Some extracts from: ---> http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=39

The Strategies of Christian Fundamentalism
By Joseph R. Kiefer II

""" Fundamental Christianity--a religion that controls its devotees through diminishing their human potential and promoting powerlessness in their lives.
From its early days to the present, this particular strand of religion has employed the strategy of inducing fear and guilt into its followers and would-be-converts to generate a powerful belief system wherein the follower is forbidden by conscience to examine truth as presented by any other source.
This incarceration of the human spirit crushes self-acceptance and incites intolerance of those who aren't captive to the same beliefs. """

""" As Cookson (1997) points out, examples of fundamentalists persecuting others who hold divergent beliefs persist in modern times. Christian clergy have advocated the stripping of constitutional rights and securities from those who do not accept and venerate the god of the Christians.
The religion of Wicca is one example of a religion scorned by intolerant fundamentalists. """

'''' Paradoxically, many Christian fundamentalists themselves raise the cry of persecution while sparring in defense of their perceived right to proselytize around the globe.
In the Statement of Conscience issued by The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) is found: "Religious liberty is not a privilege to be granted or denied by an all-powerful State, but a God-given human right" (as cited in Lawton, 1996, p. 54). Apparently, many fundamentalists do not realize this argument is a double-edged sword, and that this statement applies these liberties to others as well as to themselves. """

'''' Not only are fundamental Christians taught they are powerless over their conditions, but they receive the message from their leaders that it is a sin to look elsewhere for assistance or understanding to life's problems--that the church and the Holy Bible contains all the answers they will ever need.
Philosophy professor Jean Mercier states:
Fundamentalists read their own books and none other; they consider knowledge from other sources useless and dangerous since it creates only doubt and confusion. (1995, p. 68) """
'''' Children are especially vulnerable.
From the cradle, fundamentalist parents condition their children into belief.
Young children do not question adults when it comes to matters of belief versus fact; they simply, more often than not, accept statements of belief as fact, especially when that is how the information is presented.

Richard Dawkins, the Charles Simonyi Chair for the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University, contends that evolutionary rationales ensure children believe what they are told as a method of survival (as cited in Krasny, 1997).
He further compares religion to a communicable virus and expounds upon it thusly:There's an additional factor in the virus theory, which is that those viruses that are good at surviving will be the ones that are more likely to survive.
So, if the virus says, "If you don't believe in this you will go to hell when you die," that's a pretty potent threat, especially to a child.

Or, if it says, "When you become a little bit older you will meet people who will tell you the opposite of this, and they will have remarkably plausible arguments and they'll have lots of what they'll call evidence on their side and you'll be really tempted to believe it, but the more tempted you are, the more that's just Satan getting at you." (Krasny, 1997, p. 61) ''''

August 11-04-06 10:59 AM

Oh von Capo you are so going to hell. Burn baby Burn! :rock:


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