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GlobalExplorer 08-13-06 11:42 AM

Important Update:

Today I have released a second version 0.7.1 that runs with .Net 2.0

http://www.global-explorer.de/Sh3Gen....1%20(2.0).zip

Apart from the runtime version, it's identical to the .Net 1.1 version.

It appears there are zero problems running under 2.0, in fact it looks and runs a bit slicker. But as any piece of software, there needs to be some time for testing, so please report anything unusual to me.

bigboywooly 08-13-06 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilder
Im right in assuming this works with GW right?

I ran it with GW1.0 and am using the latet version in GW1.1A
Works great :up:

GT182 08-13-06 12:51 PM

Working fine, no problems GE.

Just a bit confused setting up for the first time but got it sorted out after a bit. ;)

zzsteven 08-13-06 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder
Im right in assuming this works with GW right?

I ran it with GW1.0 and am using the latet version in GW1.1A
Works great :up:

It also works with GW1.0, GW1.1 update, GW bearing overlay fix, and UC-GW. My current set up.

zz

kapitanfred 08-13-06 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
Quote:

Originally Posted by NKVD-crazyivan
This is prolley a real dum Q but im a noob on a pc..where exactly do i install SH3Gen to in the SH3 folder or the Mod folder or do i just run the program and let it install it self to the defualt windows Dir.....Program/SH3.....

also i keep getting the debuger run time error Jit thing as well would love to have this.

i,m running the latest xp with all the updates....many thank Frogman

This is adressed to NKVD-crazyivan and kapitanfred.

Every time you use Sh3Gen it must read the whole campaign files before it can prepare your patrol report, meaning that if there is a single problem in one of the files there will be an error. I am not handling this kind of error because that would mean wiping problems under the carpet, and prevent me from seeing what went wrong on the users end side. People would tell me that it works fine while in fact the parser is throwing up 90% of the campaign data.

One thing I can guarantee you is that if you get it to run once, you will be able to generate 100s of patrol reports in succession, and without problem. This is because the first time it runs, it has parsed the whole data, and has found no problem with it. The kind of problem you are having is not a bug per se, rather Sh3Gen not being able to handle some new form of data.

OK after the confusing introduction we can try to work out a solution to your problems. First the usual questions:

- Do you use DotNET 1.1 or 2.0?
- can you send me the exact error message? (it can be copied from the debugger window, look at page 1 of this thread how people did it since day 1)
-which campaign mod are you using?
- have you tried with different savegames, different Sh III installations, different campaign layers?
- when does the error occur - when you start Sh3Gen or when you run "Generate"?


This problem is almost certainly caused by a new modification to one of the campaign files. I don't need to know any other mods you are using besides ones that change one of the following three files:

Campaign.LND
Campaign.RND
Campaign.SCR

Installing a mod package without any smaller, or self made modifications should do the trick. Always keep a backup copy of stock ShIII+Grey Wolves before you start experimenting with SHIII.

Don't hesitate to ask me questions. I will try to help.

GE

Thanks for the quick response GlobalExplorer. To answer your questions, The SH3Gen won't even run. The error occurs as soon as I start it.

The only mods that I use are the GW1.1a and the Environment mod. But I did change the weather component in the Campaign.rnd file of the GW1.1a mod using CB's guidance but surely that shouldn't have a bearing on running SH3Gen:-? DotNET 1.1 is used.

zzsteven 08-13-06 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
Important Update:

Today I have released a second version 0.7.1 that runs with .Net 2.0

http://www.global-explorer.de/Sh3Gen....1%20(2.0).zip

Apart from the runtime version, it's identical to the .Net 1.1 version.

It appears there are zero problems running under 2.0, in fact it looks and runs a bit slicker. But as any piece of software, there needs to be some time for testing, so please report anything unusual to me.

Uhmmm does 0.7.1 also run with Net1.1 which I installed in order to run previuos versions of SH3Gen or do I need to install Net 2.0 now?

zz

NKVD-crazyivan 08-13-06 08:37 PM

Thanks G E for the reply
i am running GW 1.1a and SH3 Commander i have not altered any files as yet no other mods. tried your lastest SH3gen i dont get the run time jit debugging any more but i get a Microsoft window saying Sh3gen has encountered a probblem and needs to close......................

i am starting the game then i save it still in the game i alt-tab out run SH3gen but get nothing but this mesage is this the right way to run the programe.

thanks for your help

Rilder 08-13-06 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder
Im right in assuming this works with GW right?

I ran it with GW1.0 and am using the latet version in GW1.1A
Works great :up:

aight thanks m8 :)

GlobalExplorer 08-14-06 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzsteven
Uhmmm does 0.7.1 also run with Net1.1 which I installed in order to run previuos versions of SH3Gen or do I need to install Net 2.0 now?zz

No problem mate. For 0.7.1 I have released 2 exectutables, one is for .NET 1.1, the other for .NET 2.0

See it?

http://www.global-explorer.de/contentpage_download.htm

GlobalExplorer 08-14-06 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapitanfred
Thanks for the quick response GlobalExplorer. To answer your questions, The SH3Gen won't even run. The error occurs as soon as I start it.

The only mods that I use are the GW1.1a and the Environment mod. But I did change the weather component in the Campaign.rnd file of the GW1.1a mod using CB's guidance but surely that shouldn't have a bearing on running SH3Gen:-? DotNET 1.1 is used.

The weather mod could have an influence because it makes changes to Campaign_RND, the file that defines radio traffic. However, this would happen only after you have clicked the "generate" button.

To give a definite answer to your and crazyivans problem I have looked into the sourcecode and check what happens on startup. Besides the read from Sh3Gen\parameters.ini everything critical at startup is error handled. So if you delete Sh3Gen\parameters.ini it will make Sh3Gen crash at startup but there is no other way I can think of. That means, either the file is missing from the Sh3Gen directory, or maybe:

- your download was corrupt
- something is broken within dotNET or the OS

etc ..

Have you tried downloading and installing a second time?

Are you sure you have .NET 1.1? Should you maybe try the 2.0 version instead?

The behaviour is very unusual and I have never seen it before.

I will try to help with your problem.

Fangschuss 08-14-06 07:08 AM

Running Sh3Gen the first time, absolutely great stuff :up:

a big Thx for this great improvement :sunny:

U2222 08-14-06 10:32 AM

I've been running with SH3 Gen since v 0.6.0 was released.
Wondered today if by chance any update was available - and wow - what timing.
Set up v 0.7.0 and enjoying the experience.
Many thanks.
Regards
U2222

GlobalExplorer 08-14-06 11:19 AM

Glad you are giving it a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by U2222
I've been running with SH3 Gen since v 0.6.0 was released.
Wondered today if by chance any update was available - and wow - what timing.
Set up v 0.7.0 and enjoying the experience.
Many thanks.
Regards
U2222

I strongly recommend you get v0.7.1 as in 0.7.0 there was a bug with one of the missions.

kapitanfred 08-14-06 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
The weather mod could have an influence because it makes changes to Campaign_RND, the file that defines radio traffic. However, this would happen only after you have clicked the "generate" button.

To give a definite answer to your and crazyivans problem I have looked into the sourcecode and check what happens on startup. Besides the read from Sh3Gen\parameters.ini everything critical at startup is error handled. So if you delete Sh3Gen\parameters.ini it will make Sh3Gen crash at startup but there is no other way I can think of. That means, either the file is missing from the Sh3Gen directory, or maybe:

- your download was corrupt
- something is broken within dotNET or the OS

etc ..

Have you tried downloading and installing a second time?

Are you sure you have .NET 1.1? Should you maybe try the 2.0 version instead?

The behaviour is very unusual and I have never seen it before.

I will try to help with your problem.

Thanks for your continued support. I've installed NET 2.0, installed NET 2.0 version of SH3Gen, ran SH3Gen after I did an alt-tab out of SH3, absolutely nothing happens:damn: I'm at a loss. I don't receive the JIT debugger now but the SH3Gen.exe will not excecute meaning it does nothing. No screen comes up or anything.

dbf574 08-14-06 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
Quote:

Originally Posted by zzsteven
Uhmmm does 0.7.1 also run with Net1.1 which I installed in order to run previuos versions of SH3Gen or do I need to install Net 2.0 now?zz

No problem mate. For 0.7.1 I have released 2 exectutables, one is for .NET 1.1, the other for .NET 2.0

See it?

http://www.global-explorer.de/contentpage_download.htm


Should I delete the 0.6 before loading the 0.7.1 or could I just load on top of it? The 0.6 was the first time I've used this program and I've got to tell you... some of it's missions are down-right suicidal (ie: enter Portsmouth... are they crazy:doh: ? That place has only one way in and the same out with plenty of V&Ws around the only entrance:nope: . Right now I'm trying to decide whether to go in or count my blessings that the 3 V&Ws steaming around me haven't detected me and leave well enough alone:doh: ). But, I LIKE IT:88) !!

Thank you

U-snafu 08-14-06 09:44 PM

dbf574,
shouldn't have to delete 0.6, i just loaded 0.7.1 over it and it works fine.

GlobalExplorer,
new version been working like a charm. many thnks for your continued effort:up:

NKVD-crazyivan 08-15-06 03:09 AM

I have finaly got SH3GEN to work..................

Global you might want to make this a sticky...........................

I was trying to play Matrix games new Panzer commander and i was getting the same fialed run time errror or later i got a exe fialed etc.....

i then went onto the matrixgames site and read this i followed the first step rebooted and not only does my game work but SH3gen does now as well

AHHHHHH the Arial Font isssue.
Some players have experienced a crash related to a font problem caused by an older game.(crash for panzer commander or in my case just a black screeen on load up then back to deck top)This bug seemed to be cuased by plaers that have installed an old build of Korson Pocket and uiinstalled.

Leaving the Arial font incorrectly set on your PC ther are two ways to fix.

1.From the control panel,select fonts.Find "Arial" and delete it.Reboot your PC and it should be restored.

2.Optionally,after deleting the font,you can DL a copy of ARIAL.TTF from the net(or from a local copy of windows)With in the fonts panel on one of the taps above is the "install new fonts....."browse for the ARIAL>TTF file and install it.re-run the game and it shoulfd work..

I dont no if this will help but im gussing other sub guys may also like playing war games as well and some of those old ones did stuff up the fonts a little all i know is it was busted but noe it works after step one........

GlobalExplorer 08-15-06 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-snafu
dbf574,
shouldn't have to delete 0.6, i just loaded 0.7.1 over it and it works fine.

GlobalExplorer,
new version been working like a charm. many thnks for your continued effort:up:

As U-snafu says, it will usually work.

But I recommend uninstalling the old version because sometimes not all files will be overwritten. This will especially be a problem if I change the structure of the installation, so you might end up with some files not removed by the uninstaller.

GlobalExplorer 08-15-06 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKVD-crazyivan
I have finaly got SH3GEN to work..................

Global you might want to make this a sticky...........................

I was trying to play Matrix games new Panzer commander and i was getting the same fialed run time errror or later i got a exe fialed etc.....

i then went onto the matrixgames site and read this i followed the first step rebooted and not only does my game work but SH3gen does now as well

AHHHHHH the Arial Font isssue.
Some players have experienced a crash related to a font problem caused by an older game.(crash for panzer commander or in my case just a black screeen on load up then back to deck top)This bug seemed to be cuased by plaers that have installed an old build of Korson Pocket and uiinstalled.

Leaving the Arial font incorrectly set on your PC ther are two ways to fix.

1.From the control panel,select fonts.Find "Arial" and delete it.Reboot your PC and it should be restored.

2.Optionally,after deleting the font,you can DL a copy of ARIAL.TTF from the net(or from a local copy of windows)With in the fonts panel on one of the taps above is the "install new fonts....."browse for the ARIAL>TTF file and install it.re-run the game and it shoulfd work..

I dont no if this will help but im gussing other sub guys may also like playing war games as well and some of those old ones did stuff up the fonts a little all i know is it was busted but noe it works after step one........

The Arial font ?!?!

That is one of the most strangest things I have heard in a long time.

Thanks a lot for explaining that to other players, and hope you can enjoy the game now.

GlobalExplorer 08-15-06 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapitanfred
Thanks for your continued support. I've installed NET 2.0, installed NET 2.0 version of SH3Gen, ran SH3Gen after I did an alt-tab out of SH3, absolutely nothing happens:damn: I'm at a loss. I don't receive the JIT debugger now but the SH3Gen.exe will not excecute meaning it does nothing. No screen comes up or anything.

If you have installed both versions of Sh3Gen plus the respective Frameworks, and the main form doesn't show up, something must be really wrong. This is just not normal behaviour, there is no explanation for the application not showing up.

Can it maybe have something to do with security?

You are clicking on the Sh3Gen desktop icon or Sh3Gen\Sh3Gen.exe , right?

Maybe you are just out of luck :(

Stay tuned.


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