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Armistead 03-25-13 01:55 PM

Sick of politicians and elitist, like much of Hollywood that would ban guns, yet hire armed bodyguards. No different than Portman of GOP against gay marriage until his son came out gay, now he's for gay marriage.

Jimbuna 03-25-13 05:12 PM

Sounds like UK politicians.

Ducimus 03-25-13 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2031167)
Sick of politicians and elitist, like much of Hollywood that would ban guns, yet hire armed bodyguards. No different than Portman of GOP against gay marriage until his son came out gay, now he's for gay marriage.


You'll probably enjoy this, I know I did. They're all hypocrites that lack the courage of their convictions.

Journalists, Politicians Refuse to Post Lawn Sign saying "HOME IS PROUDLY GUN FREE"



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Damn....
Hitler Survivor Condemns Gun Control 'KEEP YOUR GUNS, BUY MORE GUNS' - Katie Worthman

yubba 03-25-13 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2031100)
Read the UN paperwork Yubba, it's clearly states it has no effect on internal gun control laws of sovereign states. It would only limit what arms can be imported.

I read it and there's to many may bes and might affect american ownership for my likings, if it was a harmless treaty, why did they vote on it in the dead of night this last weekend I didn't know it was up for a vote..I got a test for you all, get 2 sheets of paper on one write, Jesus and then Obama on the other, then put them on the floor, and tell me which one you would rather stump on,,A teacher in a school would like you to stump on the Jesus one and he didn't give a choice like I did,,, remeber god given rights.

Tchocky 03-25-13 06:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/BwFAae6.png

Buddahaid 03-25-13 06:37 PM

What? I'd rather not waste two good sheets of paper so you forgot another choice. You must have some strange schools out your way....... :hmmm:

razark 03-25-13 10:20 PM

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yubba 03-26-13 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2031297)

I know what the trouble is, it's simple, you can't understand freedom, or is more sinister, you don't want your neighbor to have free will while you reap the beniefits of his labor,, so are you on the ban free will band wagon.??? So did you do a mexican hat dance on that sheet of paper that had Jesus written on it ?????? So how much money was taken from those folks in Cyprus ??? I hear the EU is looking toward Spain and Italy for more ..Can you say bank run if you ain't got your crap together it's too late have a nice day..

Tribesman 03-26-13 10:53 AM

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I know what the trouble is
Pure yubberish.

yubba 03-26-13 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2031575)
Pure yubberish.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...53388634_n.jpgYubbaerish enough for ya

Sailor Steve 03-26-13 07:26 PM

Yubba miss point entirely.

August 03-26-13 08:45 PM

Yubba only pawn in game of life
http://dubsism.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/mongo.gif

Tchocky 03-26-13 08:58 PM

RIP Mongo :(

yubba 03-26-13 09:32 PM

Well I guess I win, all you got is name calling, and ridicual,., may be you tell yubba, when we get to this utopia, and what it will be like, so yubba don't just drives by it.. yubba may just be simple pawn in great scheme of the life but at least yubba knows how to open a can of food with out electricity. Have a nice time in the FEMA camps, you know what's funny about that statement, it's not if I believe in it, it's that, millions that are more screwed up in the head than I, do , now that's funny.

Oberon 03-26-13 09:46 PM

Where would we be without Yubbas philisophical insights on the state of modern America? When he's put in the FEMA death camp, his intellect shall be lost to these pages. A sad day that shall be.

Sailor Steve 03-26-13 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2031997)
Well I guess I win, all you got is name calling, and ridicual,.,

You don't win, because you don't get it any more than Bubblehead does. You ridicule everyone who doesn't think like you in every post you make.

I'll try to explain it. People don't make fun of you for what you say, but for how you say it. If you believe these things, then fine. Talk about them. Discuss them; but don't just spout them as if you're some kind of prophet. You're not. People give you grief because you don't discuss these things. You preach them, and you don't do it particularly well.

I'm seriously trying to help. As long as you continue to play the clown people will continue to treat you that way.

Oberon 03-26-13 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2032012)
You don't win, because you don't get it any more than Bubblehead does. You ridicule everyone who doesn't think like you in every post you make.

I'll try to explain it. People don't make fun of you for what you say, but for how you say it. If you believe these things, then fine. Talk about them. Discuss them; but don't just spout them as if you're some kind of prophet. You're not. People give you grief because you don't discuss these things. You preach them, and you don't do it particularly well.

I'm seriously trying to help. As long as you continue to play the clown people will continue to treat you that way.


The thing is, Steve, I suspect that he's so entrenched in his beliefs, so blinkered and full of hatred towards the current American government, that he truly believes everything he says, and nothing we say or do will sway him from that. Even more, he can dismiss us all as 'stamping on Jesus' or 'liberals' when we try to prove that what he's saying is actually mostly either political spin, scaremongering or just outright lies. For some people, even though they are alone in their beliefs, or near enough so, they still cannot accept the possibility that they may be wrong, it's a sort of martyrdom-esque stance. They believe that they are the only one who can see the 'coming storm' and it's their duty, perhaps their god-given duty, to 'sound the alarm' and try to warn people before it's too late.
You can swap out Obama and put in any number of doomsday prophecies, and it's the same sort of stubborn self-delusion that people like Harold Camping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping) have, that lead them to announce to all and sundry that the end of the world will happen on X date. They honestly believe in it, and they believe that what they are doing is right and just.
At least with people that call the end of the world though they usually start to change their tune when the world doesn't end. The trouble with the FEMA death camp lot is that they'll keep believing it so long as it doesn't happen.

In short, as much as you want to help him, he is quite beyond help and will in fact likely view your attempts to reason with him as some sort of attack.

Simmy 03-26-13 11:21 PM

I live in America. I didn't fight the British for my freedom, someone else did that. I have to believe that the founding fathers, the richest men in America, decided that they needed to be free so that they could make the laws and collect the taxes and basically do all the things that they were apposed to the English doing.
I believe they made guns a big deal in the 2nd amendant because:
1) they themselves just turned on their master and wanted to be sure everyone was armed in case they needed to fight again. But try saying that the government as it stands today is corrupted and needs to be overturned. They will consider that as High Treason.
2) people in that time lived in the wide open spaces and guns were needed to defend ones family and land from criminals and animals that roamed around that are not that much of a problem today.

Back then a soldier or an experienced hunter could load and aim about 3 shots per minute. Now any crazy person without much experience can fire 30 round from a AR15 or AK47 as fast as they can pull the trigger, and reload another 30 round clip faster than the guys who made this law could switch weapons. Does anyone really think that if Washington or Jefferson were alive today that they would argue that the common person would need such a weapon?
They saw that the only truely free people were people that were armed. To totally take away weapons is to create a police state, a bad idea that is evident in many places of the world. But something must be done to stop unbalanced people from being able to kill 20/30 children just because they can.

Buddahaid 03-26-13 11:21 PM

Yubba, you're the only person I ever put on my ignore list, but I took you off after a week because you're just Yubba, and harmless. I'm not convinced you are for real and are just role playing, but you don't get mad and indignant. You sprout anew with the same songs. :shucks:

Hottentot 03-26-13 11:39 PM

Are we there yet?


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