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tedhealy 03-19-07 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep Six
Well I must say this is dissapointing for the big reso brigade, of which I used to be one of.....Had a CRT that went well over 1600X1200, now I have a viewsonic 1280X1040 but its superfast at 2ms refresh....

About the Reso being capped at SH3 levels....I'm betting that one of the very first mods that will make it's apperance will be a Resolution hack.....Yes it was done for SH3 and it will probably be done for SH4....Do NOT worry....I wish I could remember the modder but it was a great mod that let you run ANY reso after the mod was run, well not really a mod but a hack of a .dll...The main thing was you needed a program from Microsoft to actually start the hack process and once it was all done and you installed the provided d3d.dll and another small file....you could then open the .cfg and WRITE in ANY reso you wanted and voila....You had SH3 running in glorious 1600X1200 or any other res for that matter
With regards the NO FSAA..I'm sure again there will be a work around...Nvidia users will probably use nHancer and FORCE AA on the game.....Plus with every new version there always adding to the profile list, wouldn't be hard to get SH4 on there HDR+AA@16Q just like Oblivion....on a 8800GTX...

Early days yet.....I'm sticking with my order.(Delux Collectors) We have great modders here that can work up miracles......I BELIEVE IN THEM....

Deep Six
Yes, here's the howto for sh3:

http://www.communitymanuals.com/shii...lay_Resolution

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.

evil666 03-19-07 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mud
Hmm I've played SH1 for years and the ships were flat and a 2d control room with the full 16 colors.
Think I can handle 1024x768 and still can have fun with the game.

Mud
for sure. but to miss higher resolutions ist not state of the art, not in the year 2007. :-?

RickC Sniper 03-19-07 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper
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Originally Posted by malkuth74
just a Widescreen LCD problem? If so then you need to make that clear.

And where the hell did you get the game? Its not even shipped yet.
Calm down. I never said I have the game. I can see the screenshots like everyone else.

I only stated that widescreens need to run in their native rez or they look crappy. My old games still look good at forced 4:3 (easily set in video card panel) sizing but they need to run at my monitor's resolution (not widescreen)to look good. If they don't have an option to run at my native resolution then they look better on my old CRT.


I'm not joining any lynching party, but If they advertise widescreen support the needed resolutions are implied. Everyone knows this.

I'll wait and let the dust settle before ordering this game. Perhaps it will be resolved.


Perhaps that is the issue. It supports higher resolutions but not on LCD widescreen monitors?
I wish that were true, but based on the posted screenies only the interface is affected by changing game resolutions, type of monitor won't matter.

Let me clarify my statement. A 1024x768 game looks better on my old crt than my lcd. It is in fact quite crappy on my lcd.

I hope there is no misunderstandings.

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by evil666
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mud
Hmm I've played SH1 for years and the ships were flat and a 2d control room with the full 16 colors.
Think I can handle 1024x768 and still can have fun with the game.

Mud
for sure. but to miss higher resolutions ist not state of the art, not in the year 2007. :-?
Hmmm I think we are being invaded by UBI.com members. And we all know how they act over that way. Everyone that is complaining (except a few) are mostly brand new members. And I'm sure not going to trust someone named evil666. :rotfl:

tedhealy 03-19-07 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.
Also reported at the official forum

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1711066245

So at least 2 people have seen this, unless those 2 people are one in the same.

longam 03-19-07 07:30 PM
Just a couple of systems to rate a game’s performance. I don’t think so.

JasonSK 03-19-07 07:34 PM
Hardly 1 screen shot, I could post 50 of it, its 1024x768 stretched, distorted and blurred, period, the only way it wont bug you is if your freaking blind, or are locked at 1024x768 its a shame cause the effects are AWSOME.

im running at 1600x900 right now in a window to reduce it a bit, but its still really there, if I ran in a window at 1024x768 its nearly not noticible.. but whats the point of having widescreen..

Captain Norman 03-19-07 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by malkuth74
Why do you guys keep blaming UBI? UBI is the Publisher not the Developer. Rushing the Developer is not the problem. If it doesnt support FSAA then that was a Decision the Devs made not UBI.
Yes, BUT its the publishers job to make sure the final product is good, how could they let this slide?

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonSK
Hardly 1 screen shot, I could post 50 of it, its 1024x768 stretched, distorted and blurred, period, the only way it wont bug you is if your freaking blind, or are locked at 1024x768 its a shame cause the effects are AWSOME
Were did you get the game? And are you the same guy that is complaining on UBI? If so is it possible it is an issue with your setup?

Mud 03-19-07 07:36 PM
I'll give my honest opinion when I have SH4 which is hopefully tomorrow , but that said I'm prolly the old fart that rates a game more for playability than for resolution settings .... no pun intended.

Mud

evil666 03-19-07 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Hmmm I think we are being invaded by UBI.com members. And we all know how they act over that way. Everyone that is complaining (except a few) are mostly brand new members. And I'm sure not going to trust someone named evil666. :rotfl:
mh, you're not right. i got the link from a german gamer forum. to hear from this issue makes many people doubtful, me too. so i decided to register here to have my say. maybe you can imagine that. i have nothing to do with ubi.com. :cry:

OneTinSoldier 03-19-07 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep Six
Well I must say this is dissapointing for the big reso brigade, of which I used to be one of.....Had a CRT that went well over 1600X1200, now I have a viewsonic 1280X1040 but its superfast at 2ms refresh....

About the Reso being capped at SH3 levels....I'm betting that one of the very first mods that will make it's apperance will be a Resolution hack.....Yes it was done for SH3 and it will probably be done for SH4....Do NOT worry....I wish I could remember the modder but it was a great mod that let you run ANY reso after the mod was run, well not really a mod but a hack of a .dll...The main thing was you needed a program from Microsoft to actually start the hack process and once it was all done and you installed the provided d3d.dll and another small file....you could then open the .cfg and WRITE in ANY reso you wanted and voila....You had SH3 running in glorious 1600X1200 or any other res for that matter
With regards the NO FSAA..I'm sure again there will be a work around...Nvidia users will probably use nHancer and FORCE AA on the game.....Plus with every new version there always adding to the profile list, wouldn't be hard to get SH4 on there HDR+AA@16Q just like Oblivion....on a 8800GTX...

Early days yet.....I'm sticking with my order.(Delux Collectors) We have great modders here that can work up miracles......I BELIEVE IN THEM....

Deep Six
Isn't all that hack does is allow UPSCALING the 1024x768 resolution to higher res? Does that hack actually make the 3D Rendered world a higher res? I mean, all SHIII shipped with was... 1024x768, nothing else. I don't see how the hack could change that. :hmm:

stabiz 03-19-07 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by evil666
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Hmmm I think we are being invaded by UBI.com members. And we all know how they act over that way. Everyone that is complaining (except a few) are mostly brand new members. And I'm sure not going to trust someone named evil666. :rotfl:
mh, you're not right. i got the link from a german gamer forum. to hear from this issue makes many people doubtful, me too. so i decided to register here to have my say. maybe you can imagine that. i have nothing to do with ubi.com. :cry:
Dont listen to him, evil. The subsim-is-best-I-am-looking-down-my-nose-on-anybody-else routine is getting old. (I am not from the Ubi forums either, by the way, original subsimmer)

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tedhealy
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.
Also reported at the official forum

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1711066245

So at least 2 people have seen this, unless those 2 people are one in the same.
If you bother to read the thread you are pointing me too. You will see that its a guy saying that his friend that is Dislexic says that its not turning up. But someone else in the thread says his is fine. Go figure. If your trying to prove a point you chose the wrong thread. :rotfl:

marius 03-19-07 07:42 PM
Lucky I don't have a widescreen LCD!

But if this is how the game looks in widescreen... in 2007... then I am speechless.

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stabiz
Quote:
Originally Posted by evil666
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Hmmm I think we are being invaded by UBI.com members. And we all know how they act over that way. Everyone that is complaining (except a few) are mostly brand new members. And I'm sure not going to trust someone named evil666. :rotfl:
mh, you're not right. i got the link from a german gamer forum. to hear from this issue makes many people doubtful, me too. so i decided to register here to have my say. maybe you can imagine that. i have nothing to do with ubi.com. :cry:
Dont listen to him, evil. The subsim-is-best-I-am-looking-down-my-nose-on-anybody-else routine is getting old. (I am not from the Ubi forums either, by the way, original subsimmer)
Stabiz, if you don't want SH4 don't buy it. I still am. You guys can keep complaining all you want about a game that has not shipped, you don't have yet. Nor have seen. And keep quoting threads from ubi, from a guy that says his friend in states said so and so. Be my guest. :arrgh!: Have fun. :p

stabiz 03-19-07 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep Six
Well I must say this is dissapointing for the big reso brigade, of which I used to be one of.....Had a CRT that went well over 1600X1200, now I have a viewsonic 1280X1040 but its superfast at 2ms refresh....

About the Reso being capped at SH3 levels....I'm betting that one of the very first mods that will make it's apperance will be a Resolution hack.....Yes it was done for SH3 and it will probably be done for SH4....Do NOT worry....I wish I could remember the modder but it was a great mod that let you run ANY reso after the mod was run, well not really a mod but a hack of a .dll...The main thing was you needed a program from Microsoft to actually start the hack process and once it was all done and you installed the provided d3d.dll and another small file....you could then open the .cfg and WRITE in ANY reso you wanted and voila....You had SH3 running in glorious 1600X1200 or any other res for that matter
With regards the NO FSAA..I'm sure again there will be a work around...Nvidia users will probably use nHancer and FORCE AA on the game.....Plus with every new version there always adding to the profile list, wouldn't be hard to get SH4 on there HDR+AA@16Q just like Oblivion....on a 8800GTX...

Early days yet.....I'm sticking with my order.(Delux Collectors) We have great modders here that can work up miracles......I BELIEVE IN THEM....

Deep Six
All that hack does is allow UPSCALING the 1024x768 resolution to higher res isn't it? Does that hack actually make the 3D Rendered world a higher res? I mean, all SHIII shipped with was... 1024x768, nothing else. I don't see how the hack could change that. :hmm:
Dunno, but here is an unedited screenshot in 1600x1200 from SH3:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9...0075ub3.th.jpg

tedhealy 03-19-07 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Quote:
Originally Posted by tedhealy
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkuth74
Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.
Also reported at the official forum

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1711066245

So at least 2 people have seen this, unless those 2 people are one in the same.
If you bother to read the thread you are pointing me too. You will see that its a guy saying that his friend that is Dislexic says that its not turning up. But someone else in the thread says his is fine. Go figure. If your trying to prove a point you chose the wrong thread. :rotfl:
I'm not trying to prove anything. My pre-order is still pre-ordered. I'm just searching for evidence of other people having the problem. I'm searching for a common thread between those that have the problem. Maybe it's the graphic card, or the operating system, or the driver, or whatever. I just don't want it to be the game.

Iron Knight 03-19-07 07:45 PM
I just cancelled my pre-order today.I'll sit on the sidelines for a few months and see how it works out.I'll be in the Med trying to mixed it up with the Royal Navy.

Thank's for the reviews and opinions Gents.


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